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| sworrall |
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| Ha! Like how can you catch someone unplugging a battery charger? And pouring water in a gas tank? Having baits stolen? The only clues I received from the number of snide remarks was concerning the Patriot Boat I bought from you at your dining room table. Just maybe there is some connection there as to why me? Or maybe jerry has a clue as he also has sent snide remarks my way. I know your not niave to the happenings on the trail. Of course, your main goal is to sell boats and motors to those who want in on tournaments and anyone typing about the very deep pitfalls - one might fall into - is only throwing water on your plans - thus your stiff defence. . Now to answer some of your unbelievable post. My partner did raise a few of these concerns with the director of the tournament we fished, and the response included telling of how a number of Ranger Boats had the specialized plugs removed at the prior tournament. In our case, as well as this one, there is not much proof one can point to. It could even be the actions of those locals who do not like tournaments for all anyone knows, but it still happened. Also, since we are on the subject, the fella who owns a green Triton up there in the UP does need to be questioned. One guy that might have some answers is Larry Eaton, as I saw his bud fishing with this trouble-maker a few days before that 2003 LBDN PWT Tournament. But you know, the only problem with this who sordid affair is there will be no one admitting to any of these 'events', so why even have an investigation? . And here is proof to my very strong statement that tournaments kill fish: http://ws3.coopfish.siu.edu/walleye_tech/sum2000mtg.htm The whole of this report is revealing, but Kendall Kampke's report starting at number 6 is a must to read. Also another: http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2002/07/18/news/local/nws2.... . And NO ONE will ever get to the stature of Kevajecz. He had the timing and has put in a tremendous amount of years to become this huge marketing star. To those who have a belief (to become Kavejacz-like) , all I can say is you better be perfect in all that you do. The odds are great against you. And finally, not everyone fishing tournaments is participating to become a "fishing star"! Some of us know our limitations and only do this thing to have a bit of sport. We know it's stupid to believe the likes of boat salesman who promote these ideas to sell their wares!  Edited by Rick Larson 8/16/2004 6:47 PM | |||
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Location: Rhinelander | 1) Ha! Like how can you catch someone unplugging a battery charger? And pouring water in a gas tank? Having baits stolen? You directly insinuated you knew it was another Pro who did the things you mention. Now you are saying you have no clue? 2) The only clues I received from the number of snide remarks was concerning the Patriot Boat I bought from you at your dining room table. Just maybe there is some connection there as to why me? Or maybe jerry has a clue as he also has sent snide remarks my way. Why would your boat brand have anything to do with what happened? Perhaps the reasons behind what happened to you are directly related to your obvious ability to get along with everyone and receive 'Plays well with others' marks. One thing for certain, if you were specifically targeted the reasons behind the sabotage were not to take you out of the top ten. Maybe jerry is commenting on your tone and inability to reconcile fact with fantasy, I don't know. I have no idea what he said, but could easily guess. He isn't alone in his feelings if he's sick of your negative ranting, that's for sure. 3) I know your not niave to the happenings on the trail. Of course, your main goal is to sell boats and motors to those who want in on tournaments and anyone typing about the very deep pitfalls - one might fall into - is only throwing water on your plans - thus your stiff defence. You are right, I am pretty familiar with the sport of competitive angling. I did hear about some thefts and some other problems over the years. I submit that happenings like that are the extreme exception, not the rule. I also submit the general feeling is that when things like that happen, it's usually a thief or vandal who is the culprit, not a Pro. Your previous post leads one to believe that you feel CONTESTANTS were responsible. In the case of this post and my last two, my main goal couldn't be further from your claim. Yes, I do sell boats for part of my living. I also have promoted competitive angling and competitive anglers my entire career, and will continue to do so. Absolutely nothing you could say or do would 'throw water' on any plans I might have, that's for sure. My 'stiff defense' was and is nothing more than a request for you to support your accusatory ramblings with even a shred of reason or fact. You directly accused competitive anglers of some pretty nasty behavior, then when cornered answer with "In our case, as well as this one, there is not much proof one can point to. It could even be the actions of those locals who do not like tournaments for all anyone knows, but it still happened. " accusing an entiely new group of folks. 4) Now to answer some of your unbelievable post. My partner did raise a few of these concerns with the director of the tournament we fished, and the response included telling of how a number of Ranger Boats had the specialized plugs removed at the prior tournament. In our case, as well as this one, there is not much proof one can point to. It could even be the actions of those locals who do not like tournaments for all anyone knows, but it still happened. What's unbelievable about my post? Wait, a minute ago you were suggesting the boat you run is the problem, are you saying the Rangers were targeted because of a similar association? MY post was unbelievable?? 5) Also, since we are on the subject, the fella who owns a green Triton up there in the UP does need to be questioned. One guy that might have some answers is Larry Eaton, as I saw his bud fishing with this trouble-maker a few days before that 2003 LBDN PWT Tournament. But you know, the only problem with this who sordid affair is there will be no one admitting to any of these 'events', so why even have an investigation? "How to Make Friends and Influence People". Sheesh. 6) And here is proof to my very strong statement that tournaments kill fish: http://ws3.coopfish.siu.edu/walleye_tech/sum2000mtg.htm The whole of this report is revealing, but Kendall Kampke's report starting at number 6 is a must to read. Also another: http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2002/07/18/news/local/nws2.... Of COURSE Tournament anglers kill some fish. So do recreational anglers, and one HECK of a bunch more than Tournament anglers. In fact, most tournaments allow WAY under the daily bag limit to be weighed, and do the very best possible to see to it as many fish are returned alive as is possible. If one was to take this to the extreme, every tournament angler could keep a limit every day on the water, and be well within legal boundaries. Fact is, most don't. You certainly don't. 7) And NO ONE will ever get to the stature of Kevajecz. He had the timing and has put in a tremendous amount of years to become this huge marketing star. To those who have a belief (to become Kavejacz-like) , all I can say is you better be perfect in all that you do. The odds are great against you. Absolute total bull. And I mean TOTAL bull. There will be another 'star'angler in the future, and another after that, who will take the top honors. I have seen several over the years, right now it's Keith's turn; and for very good reason. Perfect? Not hardly. Hard work, dedication, attitude and ability have an awful lot to do with success in any job. There will be others, and in fact already ARE others who are doing very, very well. 8) And finally, not everyone fishing tournaments is participating to become a "fishing star"! Some of us know our limitations and only do this thing to have a bit of sport. We know it's stupid to believe the likes of boat salesman who promote these ideas to sell their wares! I never said all tournament anglers are desiring to be fishing stars. I would submit that MOST hope to win. Nothing wrong with having a bit of sport, but I submit you are having your 'bit of sport' at the expense of many who need none of your particular brand of manure. You call out competitive anglers with comments like the following: 'If you are a competitor of theirs, these so-called anglers ' 'But don't get me wrong, I have experienced these half-wits in my business career' 'be aware there are a number of tournament anglers who have no interest in hearing about sportsmanship' 'Their single-minded desire is to win the prize and get all the girls (girls = attention). This is true' As far as this goes: 'We know it's stupid to believe the likes of boat salesman who promote these ideas to sell their wares!' What the heck does this mean? That you are way too slick to be tricked into buying a tournament promoted product, like say, Lund, Mercury, Ranger, Lowrance, Yamaha, Bombardier, or other fine products, or that the salesmen who make their living selling the products are somehow bad people, or are you just attacking me personally? Mr. Larson, I feel someone with your exceptional communication skills could easily land a job with a top flite magazine like the 'National Enquirer' or the 'Star'. PLEASE, do that. That might just get you off walleye websites, at least one might hope. Please, do us all a favor and take Booger's advice. | ||
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