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Location: Rainy Lake | Anyone running a f150 yamaha on a 619 or 620? Any good? how fast? if so what set up, prop, jack plate etc... |
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| I think either of those boats would be way under powered with any 150 HP on it. |
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| Diddo what Shep said, not sure you would be very happy. Those Rangers are a heavy boat. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | if your trying to be conservitive a 619 with a 200 will be just fine... going down to a 619 and adding 50 hp will be a better move. i cant think of any glass boat over 19 that can run a 150 in a deep v.... is it a four stroke? is that what your trying to do? dont be afraid of the newer 2 strokes...there running cleaner than ever quiet, and the fuel milage is better than ever also.. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The marina I was working for this past summer had a few 619's rigged with 150 Optis. I was a little leary about that myself, however, they said they ran the boat and the 150 was pushing it along low 50's. However, there was a major catch to that I'm sure. The boat was pretty bare. I'm sure that was basically an empty tank and unrigged. But to me, I would not buy a 619 with a 150 because your resell would be so bad. People would be very leary of owning a boat with such little hp compared to what it's rated for. I think a 175 on a 619 would be ok, however, like someone else stated, a 200 would be much better imo. |
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| With my 619 and 200 opti I run low to mid 50's. I don't think that would be possible with a 150. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | You didn't read what I wrote. They said they were getting that, and I also stated that was an unrigged boat. Meaning, no batteries, trolling motor, no nothing on it and probably a very empty gas tank. Just the motor, boat and a starting battery. They say they can get this doesn't mean it really can. It would also depend on conditions on the lake. There are a lot of variables to this. I'm just stating what I heard from the place I worked at. That's all.
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| Don't get your panties in a bunch Merc Kid. Why post what you heard instead of what you know? |
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Location: Rhinelander | Merckid worked for one of the largest Ranger dealers in the country last sumer. They were running a 619 light load with a buck and a half at 50mph. He said he wouldn't recommend it, and cautioned it was light load, not fully rigged. If I had asked the original question, I'd figure 40's heavy if the boat runs 50 light.
So, M, he offered some advice based on experience. |
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| I have an XR6 150 on my 690 DVS and run in the high 40's fully loaded, and sometimes touch 50 if the conditions are perfect. The 619s are a bit heavier. |
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Location: Rainy Lake | Thanks very much for the help guys I am running my F150 yamaha 4 stroke on a 1800 pro v. I get 49 loaded and 51 running light with a jack plate and a tempest plus prop. I was thinking of going to a glass boat and really like my yammie and wanted to know if a 619 or 620 would be close to what I am running now.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Go with a 200 Yammie on that boat, you won't be disappointed! That's a lot of boat for a 150 4stroke. But like I mentioned before, you go to resell that boat, people WILL turn there heads away from that boat because in my opinion, it's too little hp for that boat. But yes, it can run with a 150. But if I were you, take a look at the new Mercury 175 Optimax Pro XS. That motor on that boat would be pretty awesome on a 619. Not to mention, your cost for more hp and going to a 2stroke would come out to be about the same with a 150 4stroke, and better fuel economy! But good luck on your choice. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | as merc kid stated agian,,,, the 4 strokes are nice,, but performance and bang for the buck buy the 200 two stroke,,, there so nice,, the buggs are now out of all the major brands, opties are workin great, the bombi stuff smooth as silk and lotsa low end,,, and yamaha builds a great motor , what can we say,,, your looking at 13 gallons per hour as long as you keep your rpms in check , average ruff and tumble to glass water,,,, you need your low rpm power or it will cost you a ton at the pump no matter what motor you have on... rather than skimp buy a boat that is a year old,,,, get into your budget ,,, find one that was well taken care of ,, and odds are it was set up by somone who rigged it with for more extravagant electronics and gear than i would realy need. bonus cool stuff is great and you will use it if its on the boat ,, also a boat used a year has the buggs out... you can go over the boat and tighten this and that ,, a new one will have its share of buggs.. it shouldnt but even the best built riggs loosin up a bit... good luck ,, wish i was looking at new ones.. go find one that gets your heart pounding,,, you will know her when you see it.. |
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| If you really want the hot setup go with the 225HO Evinrude E-tech. The ole 619 will be like a rocket with this motor. This has been an unsolicited commercial.
Thank You! |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Nah, put a Mercury 225 Pro XS Optimax and that will blow a 225 HO out of the water! Or a 250 XS on a 620 and you will blow by anyone! |
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| Merckid,
be careful grasshopper, juss when you sink you hare is winning race the so called turtle will be eating hare for lunch.
Know facts before stating fiction, this is one such case to walk softly less ye become cannon fodder
Remember- man who have gas in church sit in own pew
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | ok, whatever that might mean. I would love to see a HO beat a XS. Then I would love to see any motor challenge a 250 XS, there is nothing out there that could come close right now. And if so, put the racing lower unit on it, then they will for sure have no chance. |
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| For one the 225HO will outrun the 225XS hands down. XS stands for extra suck as in extra fuel consumption. Pull your head out of the sand and get a rude dude. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | will you guys stop already!!!!!!!! everyone knows its not what you have on the back of your boat its that you pull it with a GMC TRUCK ,,,, lol and clip your lawn with a JOHN DEER<<<, and use a ST>CROX rod and OFFSHORE boards, and a BECKMAN NET, and a harlydavidson motorcyle , and a set of mazuno's in your golf bag with a taylor made driver.. |
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Location: Rhinelander | So far the testing has refuted what you are saying, RUDE.
Read it and weep.
http://www.wareham-boatyard-marina.com/rude-awakening.html |
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| Typical response from a wiconsinite......... |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Rude,
Check this article out. This is an independent study here. This will prove to you that a 225 XS is TOP DOG now! A Rude's got nothing on a XS. hehe
http://www.bwbmag.com/output.cfm?id=1059733
MERCURY: TOP-END AND ECONOMY CHAMP
While the controversies raged, we had a shootout to pull off. We took to the water with the Mercury powered Bullet first, and while Quinlan recorded the results, Cox drove like a madman to obtain the best possible numbers. I drove each hull and recorded my driving impressions, noting how each engine felt, drove, accelerated, and handled at all speeds. Conditions during our testing ranged from 73 to 79 degrees Fahrenheit, with humidity right at 69 percent. Winds ranged from flat dead calm to approximately 5 mph. Water conditions were flat glass to a slight ripple, with occasional boat wakes thrown in.
MERC WON THE TOP SPEED CONTEST BY A WIDE MARGIN, posting a clean 90.0 mph on our Stalker radar and Garmin GPS units at a within-spec 5930 rpm as recorded on our OMC Digital ShopTach inductive-pickup handheld tachometer. After a week of testing, Coty and Litjens had settled on a 14-1/2 x 28-inch Hydromotive four-blade Quad IV OT for this application. It worked: Not only did the Merc best the others by a minimum of 5.1 mph at the top end, it also won honors for best fuel economy by recording an incredible 6.2 gallons per hour at a best-cruise speed of 34.3 mph @ 2500 rpm. Averaging the entire fuel economy results, Merc won overall in this category too, with an average 4.6 miles per gallon.
IN THIS TEST, THE FASTEST WAS ALSO THE STINGIEST — that’s great news for those on a fuel budget who want to rule the river. In acceleration testing, the combination of its steep 1.62:1 gearing and tall 28-inch-pitch propeller served to hurt the big Merc’s punch quotient slightly, as it posted 0-30 mph times of 8.1 seconds and 40-60 times of 5.6 seconds — good for third and second places, respectively.
Handling-wise, the brutish Mercury was the best of the three, no contest. Its solid mounts and proven Sport Master lower unit combined to give a very authoritative, grounded feel at all speeds, especially when accelerating and at top-end speed. At idle speeds, the Mercury was the loudest of the three engines, as it exhibited the typical OptiMax sound, sort of a hollow note accompanied by a slightly muted “clicking”. Some have likened it to a sewing machine-like sound, as it lumbered along at 1000 rpm. As we climbed out of the hole and onto plane, the centersection’s open exhaust allowed the engine to breathe, and breathe it did. It was plenty loud in the Bullet’s cockpit, prohibiting conversation at any level except yelling. Midrange torque and top speed pull were there in abundance, with no lack of lift and drive at any speed. Overall, the 225 Pro XS is all Merc, with plenty of Merc Racing snarl and growl to befit its heritage.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Now for the punch line Mr. Rude.
AND THE WINNER IS…
WHERE THE PROP MEETS THE WATER, MERCURY WON THIS CONTEST HANDS-DOWN. You’ve got to hand it to the men in black; this engine didn’t exist a year ago, and when they first conceived it, they had no intentions of running it at 90 mph on a lightweight rig like our Bullet. It goes to show you how quickly a company can react and adapt when they want to. Kudos to Mercury; they deserve this win.
Yamaha and Evinrude both produced excellent outboards that showcase how good DFI technology has become, yet they have a little work to do before they can pull alongside and pass the Mercury team. I’d love to revisit this same shootout a year from now to see if either company can knock Team Black from its perch. Anyone care for a rematch?
Remember, this is from Bass and Walleye Magazine. These are tests they ran, not Mercury, Evinrude, or Yamaha, but Bass and Walleye Magazine. There isn't much more to say. I may be a college kid, but I know my stuff, but particularly my Mercury motors. hehe. I'm just havin fun here. This is something I take A LOT of interest in.
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Location: Rhinelander | Wouldn't matter if I was from Utah, the Merc has tested to be faster, better fuel economy, and all the rest by Bass and Walleye Boats testing and more. That doesn't mean the Evinrude isn't a great motor, it most certainly is. |
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| from a non-bias point of view.. which company has a better warranty? |
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