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Posted 1/18/2008 7:58 AM (#65097)
Subject: 250 H.O. Rude


That's right Rude is back on top. The new 250 H.O. Rude is now pushing the ranger 620VS 70 plus MPH. This speed was reported GPS at bull shoals during the product tour. The boat was chine walking like the bass rockets!
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Jayman
Posted 1/18/2008 10:15 AM (#65106 - in reply to #65097)
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70??? seems like a big jump from just tickleing 60. Got some more data?
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K Gonefishin
Posted 1/18/2008 11:16 AM (#65110 - in reply to #65097)
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Location: Lake Erie
This was covered on the "other" walleye site, Eric Olson was testing this motor.
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Other site
Posted 1/18/2008 12:13 PM (#65113 - in reply to #65110)
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4 gals of gas, no extra gear, no TM, no kicker, 1 battery. I could see it. Maybe. With a tail wind, and a sanded hull.
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Jayman
Posted 1/18/2008 1:14 PM (#65117 - in reply to #65097)
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I've been running the 250 for a couple years now and trust me I've blown away plenty of "60 mph boats" on tourney day doing 60.
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sworrall
Posted 1/19/2008 1:19 PM (#65145 - in reply to #65097)
Subject: Re: 250 H.O. Rude




Location: Rhinelander
Jayman, yup!
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Not
Posted 1/20/2008 8:32 AM (#65165 - in reply to #65097)
Subject: RE: 250 H.O. Rude


I don't know what 250 you have been running but it was not the 250 HO. This thing is going to make you merc guys cry in your soup!
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sworrall
Posted 1/20/2008 10:19 AM (#65169 - in reply to #65097)
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Location: Rhinelander
I'm not too worried about +any+ motor making me cry in my soup...
I'm sure it's a nice motor
So is the Opti XS
And the Yammy
And the Suzi
And so on.

Fuel being what it is, my rig will have a buck and a half Opti on the transom this year. I need a motor that will get me there fast with low fuel consumption, so this year it's a 150.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 1/20/2008 10:21 PM (#65179 - in reply to #65097)
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Yeah I agree with Sworrall, with the fuel prices that are coming for the upcoming season I'll get there last with my 115 and save some money, at least for the waters and small tourneys that I fish.
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Jayman
Posted 1/21/2008 9:01 AM (#65196 - in reply to #65179)
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You're right that don't look anything like a 250 E-tec. I'd be real surprised that a tuned up 250 E-tec with an HO sticker is goning to get you 10MPH. But what do I know?


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Jim Carroll
Posted 1/21/2008 11:31 AM (#65205 - in reply to #65165)
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Really?

I saw this on the Bass Fishing Homepage...Jim Carroll NPAA #13

SUBJECT: # 93973: 250 E-Tec HO vs. 250 Opti Pro XS

Submitted by nanook (69.217.58.64) from ALABAMA on 1/13/2008 8:15:00 PM

The following data was gathered during the Ranger Dealer meeting this past summer...both Mercury and Evinrude personnel were on hand for rig set up purposes..


Engine: Evinrude 250 E-Tec HO (Evinrude guys were running the boat)
Ranger Boat: Z520
Prop: 26 Raker
Engine Height: 3rd hole
Misc: Full fuel load (40 gal) / empty live well / trolling motor, batteries
Top Speed w/ 2 persons: 72
Top Speed w/ 1 person: 74


Engine: Mercury 250 OptiMax Pro XS
Ranger Boat: Z520
Prop: 26 Tempest
Engine Height: 3rd hole
Misc.: Full fuel load (40 gal) / empty live well / trolling motor, batteries
Top Speed w/ 2 persons: 74
Top Speed w/ 1 person: 75.4
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Brad B
Posted 1/21/2008 11:56 AM (#65207 - in reply to #65097)
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Z520 is a bass hull, is it not? Could that be where the difference is coming from - that someone has the heavier 620 hull confused with the 520 bass hull?

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stacker
Posted 1/21/2008 12:08 PM (#65208 - in reply to #65207)
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Jayman, whos fish are you holding?

Wow, It is going to be quite the winter. 70 mph out of a WALLEYE BOAT, HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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Jayman
Posted 1/21/2008 12:29 PM (#65209 - in reply to #65208)
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Denny, Nevermind the fish. Look at the engine!

Steve, I agree, with fuel the way it's been, I do most of driving at a cruising speed usually around 4000 R's and 40mph. Saves on fuel and wear and tear. Most outboards do well in the 3500-4500 range for fuel economy.


Jim, like Brad said 520 vs the 620....the original post stated a 620VS. 72mph in a Bass boat ain't much to brag about there. The serious speed nuts in bass won't even mention Ranger in the same sentence.

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KHedquist
Posted 1/21/2008 12:34 PM (#65210 - in reply to #65208)
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LOL

The 620 with 250 HO they are talking about Eric Olson and the Butter Boat,




stacker - 1/21/2008 12:08 PM

Jayman, whos fish are you holding?

Wow, It is going to be quite the winter. 70 mph out of a WALLEYE BOAT, HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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stacker
Posted 1/21/2008 12:34 PM (#65211 - in reply to #65209)
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin
What engine, all I see is a refrigerator on the back of your boat.
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Jim Carroll
Posted 1/21/2008 1:04 PM (#65216 - in reply to #65209)
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My comments were in reply to the poster who said the new HO was going to eat Mercury's lunch.

I'm sure EO did get his 620 going fast, he spends a lot of time working on his setups. He also said on WC that the boat would be basically unusable for anything but going fast. It was overpropped, etc. Jim Carroll NPAA #13
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KHedquist
Posted 1/21/2008 1:07 PM (#65217 - in reply to #65097)
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I believe he was using lightly salted butter LOL
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Jayman
Posted 1/21/2008 1:41 PM (#65219 - in reply to #65217)
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LOL Kirt, that's just plain funny.
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stacker
Posted 1/21/2008 1:57 PM (#65220 - in reply to #65209)
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Jim, like Brad said 520 vs the 620....the original post stated a 620VS. 72mph in a Bass boat ain't much to brag about there. The serious speed nuts in bass won't even mention Ranger in the same sentence.

Jayman, you are correct, that speed in a bass boat is slow by most standards. Ranger is not the choice for most bass afficionado's as well.
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Eric Olson npaa #165
Posted 1/22/2008 11:16 AM (#65243 - in reply to #65097)
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Wow,
had someone call me late last night while driving across the frozen WI tundra and said there has been some stuff for me to check out, yup, just wanted to clarify some of the "stuff"

-My boat is a 620 (most of you know that already) and yellow, unsalted, preferably light whip as it spreads easier when its cold!

-The set-up that was over 70 was done just for fun as I had a goal speed of 70 I wanted to hit

-34 gal of fuel
-full rod locker dbl up totol 24 (forgot to leave them at home)
-4 stainless props
-kicker
-3 batteries
-misc tackle (not tourney load) light
-minnkota pulled off
-Detweiler Hyd jackplate
-1 person

Condition were flat, no wind achieved in 2 directions and the hull was not modified
Remember, I did this just to see how fast I could get it to go.

-Raker II 22 69.6 6000rpm
-Raker II 24 71.24 5800rpm
-Raker II 25 72.34 5650rpm

comarison is this
-full fuel
-3 people
-bowmt on
-everything else the same

-Raker II 22 66.6

Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to run the 24 in this set-up but will as soon as the boat comes back from Ranger "de-Butterized" before I get it to it's happy new owner.

THe z-520 Ranger- the fastest Ranger to date, used the same prop (25 Raker II)with the production engines (My engine is a production engine as well, not modified in any way!) not prototype( the dealer meeting in summer was a prototype) ran 75.3 (ranger personell test result)

Anyway hope this clears some things up

Tight Lines
Eric Olson
NPAA #165
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KHedquist
Posted 1/22/2008 12:33 PM (#65246 - in reply to #65097)
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I wonder if that spread would work on a TUFFY?
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stacker
Posted 1/22/2008 12:46 PM (#65249 - in reply to #65246)
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Kirt, the Tuffy weighs in at well over 250# less than the 620. I would think that if that motor pushed the Ranger over 70, than it will darn sure push the "Thinner" Tuffy faster. This is amazing speeds to say the least, I would love to see one go that fast.
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Jim Ordway
Posted 1/22/2008 1:37 PM (#65250 - in reply to #65243)
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Eric,
What will you be running for tourneys. Lets use Erie as one example and Cass Lake as another. How fast per each and hole shot for each as wellwould you guess.
Thanks,
Jim O
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KHedquist
Posted 1/22/2008 3:49 PM (#65254 - in reply to #65249)
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stacker - 1/22/2008 12:46 PM

Kirt, the Tuffy weighs in at well over 250# less than the 620. I would think that if that motor pushed the Ranger over 70, than it will darn sure push the "Thinner" Tuffy faster. This is amazing speeds to say the least, I would love to see one go that fast.




So I should use this

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