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Message Subject: Merc. National
walleyebutch
Posted 3/12/2008 12:42 PM (#67012)
Subject: Merc. National


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Did anybody get their boat numbers back yet?
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Jim Coon
Posted 3/12/2008 2:25 PM (#67016 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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Letters have not been mailed. I picked up two entries postmarked the third today.
Letteres should be out first of next week,

Thanks

Jim Coon
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walleyebutch
Posted 3/12/2008 2:30 PM (#67017 - in reply to #67016)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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Was the tournament already filled or did those teams get in too? Thanks for the info, I'll be watching the mail next week!!
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Jim Coon
Posted 3/12/2008 4:07 PM (#67022 - in reply to #67017)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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All teams that were post marked the third will be the first teams. first priority goes to teams that fished last year, second priority goes to the alternates from last year. After all those teams post marked the 3rd of March are entered we go to the new teams post marked the 3rd, If there are openings after that I will go to the fourth, fifth until all openings are filled.

Thanks

Jim Coon

Edited by Jim Coon 3/12/2008 4:08 PM
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walleyebutch
Posted 3/18/2008 2:28 PM (#67232 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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Boat numbers out? Can't wait for the ice to go out now!!
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guest
Posted 3/24/2008 8:39 AM (#67478 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


Are any of you guys getting your boat numbers back yet ?They said they should be out by now.
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Not filled?
Posted 3/24/2008 10:11 AM (#67482 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


rumor on the street has it that the Merc Nationals did not fill for the first time ever. Is this true????
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Jim Coon
Posted 3/24/2008 3:03 PM (#67494 - in reply to #67482)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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It Was over full the first day and Ack. letters are being mailed from Mercury today 3/24

Jim Coon
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stacker
Posted 3/24/2008 3:07 PM (#67495 - in reply to #67494)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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How can that be Jim, who do you know? Not Filled said it was so that it did not fill. hahahah and the rumor mill starts. I heard that the only reason they filled was they let non-mercury brands in this year....is that true? hahahahahahahahaha
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thumper
Posted 3/24/2008 3:12 PM (#67497 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: Re: Merc. National


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Jim- If we don't make it in, do they just mail the check back or how does that work?

Dave S
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Jim Coon
Posted 3/24/2008 3:20 PM (#67500 - in reply to #67497)
Subject: Re: Merc. National


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All the alternate team's checks will be returned with their letter.
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Not Filled?
Posted 3/24/2008 4:08 PM (#67504 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


Yea that's a good one Stacker .hahahahahahahahaha. bout as funny as the rumor that the delay in letters being mailed is they have letters mailed the first day from Fond du Lac and take ten days to get to Appleton.
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stacker
Posted 3/24/2008 4:16 PM (#67506 - in reply to #67504)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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Not Filled? - 3/24/2008 4:08 PM

Yea that's a good one Stacker .hahahahahahahahaha. bout as funny as the rumor that the delay in letters being mailed is they have letters mailed the first day from Fond du Lac and take ten days to get to Appleton.




Oh, come on now "not filled", those be jokes, butch up now. Some times letters take longer to get some where than you think. If you mail in a big city its better than sending from small town to bigger town to another big town to a address. Jim just wants to make sure that those who have postmarked in time get in.

I think everyone needs some on the water time.
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Jayman
Posted 3/24/2008 4:16 PM (#67507 - in reply to #67504)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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Who Cares?

Why is it so damn important to know if you got in today or 10 days from now? The tournament, the last time I checked, is still in June.

Even more ironic is some anon user who ain't got the gonads to sign his own name, yet challenge a credible tournament director on the internet. Now that's funny!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Edited by Jayman 3/24/2008 4:17 PM
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walleyebutch
Posted 3/25/2008 3:40 PM (#67551 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


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#241
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thumper
Posted 3/28/2008 7:10 AM (#67670 - in reply to #67012)
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I'm not sure how to interpret the 8 walleye in the livewell rule (new for this year). Are they saying we are only allowed to upgrade 3 fish after you keep your 5 fish limit, and then you're done?

Edited by thumper 3/28/2008 7:12 AM
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tyee
Posted 3/28/2008 7:58 AM (#67672 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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Thumper, I think what they are trying to do is to reduce the impact on dead fish. 8 in the well instead of 10 (state alloted liimit for 2 people). Culling is still illegal so "upgrading" is not allowed if you put it in the well. If your weighing 8 fish I would guess this allows each person to catch one more fish and release one in the well? The bigger ethical question is what to do once you have 8 in the well and each angler has upgraded their 1 fish, If you WIN the tourney will there be a question on culling on the Lie Detector test?
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Jayman
Posted 3/28/2008 8:34 AM (#67675 - in reply to #67672)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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Limit is 5, 3 "upgrades" = 8 fish total. Upgrades meaing upgrade your weight. 3 fish better then 3 fish you currently have in your livewell.....where is there culling, Tyee? It's quite simple.

For an anti-tourney guy, I'm just curious how many tourney's you plan to fish this year? and also if you're related to Rick Larson?
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Jim Coon
Posted 3/28/2008 8:50 AM (#67678 - in reply to #67675)
Subject: Re: Merc. National


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In the past teams were allowed ten walleyes in the livewell and weigh the best five fish. In an effort to inprove the release rate we are limiting teams to eight in the livewell weighing the best five. This is not culling if you weigh the best five and have not replaced a fish you had put in your livewell. Teams will just have to decide which fish they want to put in their well and live with that decision as culling is not allowed.

Edited by Jim Coon 3/28/2008 9:07 AM
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Shep
Posted 3/28/2008 9:05 AM (#67680 - in reply to #67672)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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tyee - 3/28/2008 7:58 AM

If your weighing 8 fish I would guess this allows each person to catch one more fish and release one in the well? The bigger ethical question is what to do once you have 8 in the well and each angler has upgraded their 1 fish, If you WIN the tourney will there be a question on culling on the Lie Detector test?


No, this doesn't mean you can each catch another fish. This means exactly what it says. 8 fish allowed in the livewell. Once a fish goes in the livewell, it is part of the days posession. Up to 8 for this tourney, and weigh your best 5.

What does ethics have to do with it? If you cull, you are breaking the law. It's not unethical. it's illegal. You guys always confuse the ethics and the law.
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thumper
Posted 3/28/2008 9:22 AM (#67681 - in reply to #67678)
Subject: Re: Merc. National


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So 8 fish is the possession limit. The phrase "in the livewell" was what was confusing to me. If that means the same as "possession limit", then I understand.

Edited by thumper 3/28/2008 9:23 AM
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bradley894
Posted 3/28/2008 10:26 AM (#67689 - in reply to #67681)
Subject: Re: Merc. National


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 yup got boat noumber wed in the mail....  as far as the 8 fish possession limmit i guess im fine with that ... the new tourny its part of the rules of the tournament so thats the way iit is... once a fish hits your live well its part of your 8 allowed for the day.. plain and simple...  fished the max lure last year on baggo... we went out in the morning knowing with the huge mud bite going on that if it wasnt over 20 inches dont bother putting it in the well...  so we didnt ..throwing awy ft 19 inch fish was hard to do in the morning but NO culling means NO CULLING (CHEETING)  ya we got peanuts thrown at us on stage because we only had like 13 lbs as we ended up keeping 17 inchers later in the day after throwing back 19s earlyer... but listn WE WOULDNT HAVE PLACED IN THE MONEY EVEN IF WE WAYED THE 19 INCHERS AND HAD 18 LBS.  i think you needed 15 lbs to make the middle of the pack.. so whats the point..   ya we had a small basket on that day... so what ... its all or nothing..   now for a points cercuit  we may have had a different plan? maybe 19 woulda been the line.. and then with luck hold out one fish or two  in hopes of the 7  lb kicker but thats tournament fishing ... judgment on the water.. and being a good sport and following the laws and rules... you know when its wrong or right ... do the right thing!  foul hooking culling cell phones ... we make a lot of freinds out there on the lake and in these tournaments... cant make a living fishing them ... dont cheat your freinds and dont cheat yourself...  the  only problem with the rule i have is ...... this,,,  i pay the same if not more fee's than anyone else on the water that day... why is my possession limmit lower than joe Bob  and his brother ...  ??   tournament rules are tournament rules! you dont havta fish... if you dont wanna ...but if the state is holding a permit over a directors head over something like this i think its Wrong!  i also think it would be nice if you had a few extra fish in the well at the end of the day that you could eat them.. some get foul hooded or whatever ... my wife to this day doesnt understand why i dont bring dinner home at least ... oh well .. just rambling again..
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tyee
Posted 3/28/2008 11:42 AM (#67694 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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Jim I applaud you for taking this step to reduce the noticable kill rate during this event. 8 fish is the limit allowed in your livewell for the tourney right? not the posession limit correct? If so, once you have caught your 4 (5 and call it a day) You still can fish for a kicker and then release one of the fish in your well and be legal in WI as the alloted number per day is 5 fish, of course you have to pull your lines if you've achieved your 5 and wait for your partner to get his.

Jay, you know I'm not anti-tourney and I take offense to the thought and reference of Rick. I call it like I see it. and believe me I'm not the only one that sees it this way for these 2 major events on bago. And will continue to discuss this issue untill the tourney directors tell me that there will be no culling questions on a lie detector test or the state allows it.

Good Luck
Tyee
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WisconsinLaws?
Posted 3/28/2008 11:51 AM (#67695 - in reply to #67012)
Subject: RE: Merc. National


"You still can fish for a kicker and then release one of the fish in your well and be legal in WI "

One of us does not understand Wisconsin Laws. No wonder Jayman picks on you. It's just too easy for me however.
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Shep
Posted 3/28/2008 11:58 AM (#67696 - in reply to #67694)
Subject: Re: Merc. National



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Why do you have to state this as if there is only one person fishing? ie., Once you have caught your 5th fish you are done. With only 8 allowed in the box, you will catch 4 at most, so you will not have to pull your lines. Weigh your best 5 and then toss the other fish, or keep them to take home. Your choice. Any fish caught and immediately released will not count towards your 8 fish livewell limit, or the state's possession limit. C'mon, this is not rocket science. Been that way in other tourneys for years.

Again, culling is illegal. I think the questions asked in a lie detector test, if one is even given, are the business of the tourney directors, and the authorities. Nobody elses.

Tyee, are you fishing the Merc? If not, we are you so concerned about any lie detector test?

Edited by Shep 3/28/2008 12:01 PM
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