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Location: Rhinelander | In a short clip from the stage at the PWT Sault Ste. Marie final day weigh in, Keith Kavajecz talks a bit about the new AIM circuit for 2009.
http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/watch.asp?id=1132 |
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| I thought Scott Matheson was paid and hired to run and administer AIM? Is Keith K part of managment running day to day operations and administration for AIM. Sure looks like that to me. Why is Keith K doing something that should be done by Scott.
I just looked, there is no AIMfishing.com. The website doesn't even exist yet! |
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | BNB = Soothsayer from walleyecentral?
Shouldn't you be doing something more important with your time? The investment banking group is in shambles, mortgage forclosures are at an all time high, and gas prices are still out of control - someone of your obvious talents and wisdom could certainly be of help in any of those areas. If you'd prefer a job that will put more smiles on people's faces, I hear the guy that paints the "M" on M&M's came to work drunk last week - maybe you could apply for that? |
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Location: Rhinelander | Bob:
Watch to the video again on the web page availability, as usual you are missing large, major impact portions of the available information.
Keith Kavajecz is on the AIM Board, I believe, and certainly has the knowledge/qulaifications to say what was said. Scott Matheson wasn't fishing the PWT, was not onstage, and for those two pretty obvious reasons couldn't offer the information Keith passed on to us in that format.
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| Well now, haven't you got fed up with people lying to you yet? Why don't you go down to the public socialist library and get a copy of Pollyana. The reason everything is screwed up is because you guys have been fed lies and Tom Foollery for so long, you forget the difference between the bad guys and their self interests from the good guys trying to give you a friendly "head ups" on what the heck is going on and for what reasons. I am not the enemy pal. Wake up and look around you! |
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| Bob:
Watch to the video again on the web page availability, as usual you are missing large, major impact portions of the available information.
Keith Kavajecz is on the AIM Board, I believe, and certainly has the knowledge/qulaifications to say what was said. Scott Matheson wasn't fishing the PWT, was not onstage, and for those two pretty obvious reasons couldn't offer the information Keith passed on to us in that format.
Duh Sworral. with all due respects,
Sure he has the knowledge and qualifications, but ANY corporate board of director memeber DOES NOT and are NOT authorized to make public announcements when someone else is paid to do that. It doesn't have one iota to due with fishing the PWT and Scott not being there. Keith K is doing something Scott Maheson is PAID to DO. Why pay Scott when Keith will do it for free.? Quit making excuse for Keith. The AIM website is not even up and running yet, so why announce it?
This announcement shows many possible corporate sponsors that the AIM is NOT organized or a professionally run organization when they have no policy on who is suppose to be speaking for who about what in what authority.
Do you know who Erskine B Bowles is?
He is a member of GM's Board of Directors.
Did you see him announcing the introduction of GM's VOLT Electric car?
No you didn't did you? Why, you ask? BEcause that is the job of the CEO and GM, Rick Wagoner.
Board Memebrs don't interfere with day to day corporate operations. |
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| really, shut up, dude, you are making us all want to eat our socks.
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | BNB,
You're grasping at straws here, it's getting pretty sad. We have enough Chicken Littles running around during these times, we really don't need another. There is a very simple solution for you, don't fish these circuits and just flat out don't worry about them.
If you have such discontent for the tournament world, maybe you should just disconnect yourself from it. We all get that times are tough and that manufacturers are re-structuring. That is no reason to take shots at AIM or Keith K when they are trying to get an alternative set up and running. You remind me of the kid who hates everybody who has a nicer bike than them. Sometimes you need to let things unfold, or try to offer a plausible solution. Running everybody down, certainly isn’t going to help.
If you are truly interested in corporate sponsorship (personal or on the circuit level), it would be in your best interest to not run down the circuits or any of the anglers. It reflects poorly on everybody involved (especially you), and is not good for business overall. But I guess that’s the benefit of hiding behind a guest account and not being adult enough to use your name. Post your name and add a little validity to your rants.
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| I was wondering what happened to Bahgdad Bob? "We will krush the infidels!" hehehe No we all know. Bob, if you are going to quote somebody, don't preface the quote with he said something along the lines of. That makes it a paraphrase, not a direct quote.
You say ANY corproation would not let a board member speak in public. And it sounds like you believe that corporate America is always right? Well, maybe it's people like you, and people who think like you, that have this economy so screwed up in the first place.
Do you know who Mitchell Carson is? I didn't think so, because you are a misinformed dumbass.
Now, don't go away mad. Just go away.
Edited by Shep 9/22/2008 9:50 AM
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| Bad News Bob - 9/22/2008 8:40 AM
I thought Scott Matheson was paid and hired to run and administer AIM? Is Keith K part of managment running day to day operations and administration for AIM. Sure looks like that to me. Why is Keith K doing something that should be done by Scott.
I just looked, there is no AIMfishing.com. The website doesn't even exist yet!
That is the problem here. You THOUGHT! Admit it, you really don't know squat, do you? We didn't think so.
Get some balls and log in. |
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| Bad News Bob - 9/22/2008 8:40 AM
I thought Scott Matheson was paid and hired to run and administer AIM? Is Keith K part of managment running day to day operations and administration for AIM. Sure looks like that to me. Why is Keith K doing something that should be done by Scott.
I just looked, there is no AIMfishing.com. The website doesn't even exist yet!
That is the problem here. You THOUGHT! Admit it, you really don't know squat, do you? We didn't think so.
Get some balls and log in.
Sorry the only reason we are discussing what we are is because I didn't log in. I learned long ago the only way to discuss a HOT controversial issue is to not concetrate on personally attacking a person. I'm sorry you don't understand that concept.
I do know that Keith is NOT paid to run AIM fishing in anyway, shape or form. That's a fact. Scott Matheson is paid to make public announcments. That too is a fact.
There is no AIMfishing.com That is a Fact too. So who might be the person talking with a microphone who doesn't know squat?
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | I know this may sound way to simple and probably a crazy lie according to BNB, but to me it makes sense for Keith K to make a statement. Let's take a look at professional Walleye fishing today. Of all the people involved (anglers, tournament directors, corporate sponsors etc...), who will probably get the most attention? Do you really think that Scott M would get the mileage that Keith K does at this point?
Ask anybody who follows competitive Walleye fishing which name they recognize, I bet 99.99% recognize Keith K more than Scott. Chances are if Keith K or one of the Parsons speaks about a tournament circuit, people will listen and have some name recognition involved. This type of information is never going to be covered by the mainstream media, so tournament organizations must find the best way to effectively get the word out within their demographic. Where better to start the buzz than at one of the last PWT events (where there are anglers who will be looking for a new venue)? Who better to address the fellow anglers than one of the most recognizable and personable players in the game?
If you seriously have a problem with Keith K talking about AIM because he’s not paid to do so, you really need to take a look at every newscast on television. If I were to follow your lead, I’d have to boycott every grocery store I’ve ever seen on the news that interviewed a cashier (since they’re not the manager). Are you saying that if interviewed, anglers should restrain from saying anything at all about the circuits they fish. That sounds like great media to me.
The interviews would sound something like this.
Q. How do you feel about the upcoming FLW season?
A. I’m not at liberty to say, please call Sonny.
Q. How exciting was your championship victory last week?
A. My attorneys have given a statement to Jim K expressing my feelings.
This type of nitpicking doomsday attitude is doing nothing to help the outcome. PS, I’m requesting sponsorship funds to build a monument to your ego (since I’m one of those little people who does nothing but drinks the Kool-Aid). Too bad I’ll have to make the plaque say “Boo Hoo Bob”. |
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| Bad News Bob - 9/22/2008 12:43 PM
I do know that Keith is NOT paid to run AIM fishing in anyway, shape or form. That's a fact. Scott Matheson is paid to make public announcments. That too is a fact.
There is no AIMfishing.com That is a Fact too. So who might be the person talking with a microphone who doesn't know squat?
Is AIM in fact a Corporation? And do you know for a fact that Scott is getting paid? Is AIM a corporation? And if so, does that mean it has to be run like every other corporation you know? Is there a set of rules on how every corporation is to be run? Who may, and who may not talk? My boss talks to the press, releases statements, and speaks for the company. He is not the President of the company. Should I inform him he is out of line?
Who are you? Don't flatter yourself. If you registered and logged in, there would be just as much traffic on this topic. My opinion is you are afraid to let us know who you are, because you realize what an idiot you are.
Edited by Shep 9/22/2008 2:19 PM
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| Bob, sounds like you woke on the wrong side of the bed for the last 20 years.
Anyhoo, Keith K I believe is the chair of the web committee for AIM - although maybe I should be letting my wife say this as she is *my* CEO - I apologize to her for speaking without her permission.
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Most organizational leaders know when to speak and when to let others within the organization closest to the topic do the talking. I would not get too obsessed over Keith doing a little talking about AIM. |
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| Hey Marshall, get your own material and quit stealing my "kool-aid" lines!!!  |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | I was going to say drink the "Wal-Aid" but I was afraid that would start up a whole other can of worms. |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | Last I checked, AIM isn't a union, and isn't GM. It's a private entity that can do as it pleases. There's no law binding them to WHO makes an announcement. Your narrow minded thinking is what does corporations in. Put the best man for the job up there in a given situation(Keith would be one of the best to that audience), not a job title. Leave the formal press and corporate releses to the other guy and let Keith, Gary, and crew handle the grass roots level when necessary. |
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Location: Southwest shore Bago | BNB,
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. |
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| When it comes to Fishing Tournaments, Willow Cats, and Politics I need a "Care-o-meter" that registers the direct reflection of how I feel. Zero!!!
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| Bad news Bob:
I have read your posts, and I really enjoy a logical discussion, but this seems to have gotten out of hand. Let's try to simplify things. Please answer the following three questions with YES or NO answer ONLY.
1) Do you WANT the new AIM to succeed? (YES or NO only)
2) Do you THINK the new AIM will succeed? (YES or NO only)
3) Do you CARE if AIM succeeds? (YES or NO only)
Thanks. (BTW, I answered YES to all 3)
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Location: Rhinelander | As would I. |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | thumper - 9/24/2008 9:53 AM
Bad news Bob:
I have read your posts, and I really enjoy a logical discussion, but this seems to have gotten out of hand. Let's try to simplify things. Please answer the following three questions with YES or NO answer ONLY.
1) Do you WANT the new AIM to succeed? (YES or NO only)
2) Do you THINK the new AIM will succeed? (YES or NO only)
3) Do you CARE if AIM succeeds? (YES or NO only)
Thanks. (BTW, I answered YES to all 3)
Not to be nay sayer, but HOLY COW, you have no idea what they will bring to the table for the offering to the walleye gods AND you not only THINK, You WANT and CARE if they succeed? What happens down the road if once they set the table you do not like whats been served? |
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Location: Rhinelander | Yes.
If later one doesn't like ANY circuit's offerings, one need not follow or fish that circuit. Simple, really.
The alternative is one circuit, the FLW. I'd very much like to see AIM do well, why not?
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | honestly, it will be good to have many circuits to watch. I thoroughly enjoy it. But what I was saying is, it was a hell of a committment made, not knowing anything about it. Wanting and caring are one thing, but THINKING they will succeed with no knowledge of how it will be run. Thats the cutting edge, or even over the edge.
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Location: Berlin | Pandamonium and Chaos is what that is my friend. What if you think it will succeed and then it doesn't?? Can your brains even comprehend the consequence of that action. I sure am not prepared to even think about it until 100% of the facts are on the table and then I still would have to think about thinking about it:) |
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