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Rich S |
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Member Posts: 2300 Location: Berlin | Full Throttle has started an Illinois division. The first tournament is Spring Valley the weekend after the MWC (April 5th). They are also having it on Sunday which will be nice for using Saturday for pre-fishing. I will be there with my son. The entry is $200 and the payout is very good. My partner and I were lucky enough to win a couple of these last year and got almost $2500 for first. Their website is www.ftfishing.com They run a great show and I highly recommend giving it a chance. They have tournaments in Wisconsin, Illinois, N & S Dakota and on Mille Lacs as well as a championship. They have some really neat ideas like putting your on-stage picture on the plaque if you cash a check. They listen to the anglers and want to make this the best it can be. Let me know if you have any questions or email Full Throttle at: [email protected] | ||
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| Rich S |
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Member Posts: 2300 Location: Berlin | One more thing, If you want to email or PM me your address, I will get you on the mailing list and get a registration brochure mailed out to you. My email is: [email protected] | ||
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| finfan |
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Member Posts: 108 Location: Northern Illinois | I have to agree, very well run tourney. We will be fishing the Illinois series this year. Come check it out! Met a great group of guys in the Wisconsin and Minnesota series last year. | ||
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| Guest |
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| How many are enough? 3-21-09 FLW League 3-22-09 IWT 3-??-09 carpenters 3-28 and 29-09 MWC 4-5-09 Full Throttle 4-25-09 IWT 4-26-09 IWT Championship This is getting a little ridiculas.All these tournaments during the spawn and just after and all on the little Illinois River.No wonder all the fishing has gone downhill and will continue going down unless something changes.Why dont they take some of these elsewhere?The fish dont have a chance. | |||
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| Rich S |
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Member Posts: 2300 Location: Berlin | Actually Guest, if you talk to the DNR there they give these tournaments alot of the credit for making the fishery what it is today. They are able to gather lots of info using the fish that come to the scales. Being that time of year the mortality rate is extemely low and Full Throttle especially goes to great lengths to keep their fish alive. I do completely understand your concern though. On Winnebago there are pretty much atleast one tournament every weekend. Through the years I have just learned to trust our DNR and the results speak for themselves. Our system is as good as it has ever been. | ||
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| Guest |
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Rich S - 1/19/2009 2:19 PM Actually Guest, if you talk to the DNR there they give these tournaments alot of the credit for making the fishery what it is today. They are able to gather lots of info using the fish that come to the scales. Being that time of year the mortality rate is extemely low and Full Throttle especially goes to great lengths to keep their fish alive. I do completely understand your concern though. On Winnebago there are pretty much atleast one tournament every weekend. Through the years I have just learned to trust our DNR and the results speak for themselves. Our system is as good as it has ever been. I have talked to the DNR and we are trying to get a season or area limitation passed.And as far as the DNR making the fishery what it is today,well, it was better fishing here 20 years ago and the DNR didnt do anything to better it back then.And now they dont have any money so their not going to do anything now. As far as the mortality rate,I wouldnt consider it low after seeing dead sauger floating the day after a tournament.Maybe your system is as good as its ever been,but ours isnt. | |||
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| stacker |
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Member Posts: 2445 Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself. | ||
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| Rich S |
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Member Posts: 2300 Location: Berlin | Like I said, I understand your point of view. I am guessing if you did see sugers floating the next day they were not part of the tournament since those fish would have floated about 3 pools down:) I do respect your efforts to do what you think is right for the fishery. | ||
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| misunderstood |
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| Guest, your barking up the wrong tree here. Your concern is similar to that of many many people. Although once presented with all the facts and a bit of education they all come to the same conclusion. Tournaments DON'T have a negative biological effect on a body of water. How many floaters did you actually see? How many fish did YOU and others catch to take home and fry up during the tourney? How many of these anglers would be fishing for table fare if not fishing in a tourney?...see there are many misconceptions out there about tourneys these are just a few. In most cases the people that complain about tourneys don't necessarily have all the facts and are very intelligent people, I hope you fit in this catagory rather than the anti-category of the people that are just jealous or have huge egos and misconceptions about trying to protect "THEIR" fishing locations. | |||
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| john mannerino |
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Member Posts: 1188 Location: Chicago IL. | Let me throw this into the pot. Yes after a decline in the sauger population on the IL for years, the river is bounceing back big time with a couple of great spawn years. This fall, the fishing has not been that good with 15-18"fish in years. Locals kill a ton more fish than tourneys there. Yes Rich is right. Without tourneys, at least on the IL., the dnr will be hard pressed to get fish to the hatchery. Also I cant belive the numbers of small walleye caught this year. That number is bigtime up. Yes there is still a problem with the flying fish but I think the high water the past 2 years is keeping them in check. | ||
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| Guest |
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stacker - 1/19/2009 2:44 PM Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself. Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle. | |||
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| stacker |
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Member Posts: 2445 Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Guest - 1/19/2009 3:20 PM stacker - 1/19/2009 2:44 PM Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself. Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle. Say guest, if they taste like crap, wouldn't you catagorize them with say carp? Would you even say, or do you say anything about the tournaments where they shoot carp and weigh in dead carp to the tune of tons. Oh, and by the way, it during the spawn when they shoot them. If you want to make yourself sound like a conservationist, defend the CARP>>>> I put no words in your mouth my friend, just clarifying what you are saying. By saying you seen dead sauger implys there were many, you never stated a number. It is guys like you that blow things up, not me. Edited by stacker 1/19/2009 3:41 PM | ||
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| Guest |
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stacker - 1/19/2009 3:39 PM Guest - 1/19/2009 3:20 PM stacker - 1/19/2009 2:44 PM Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself. Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle. Say guest, if they taste like crap, wouldn't you catagorize them with say carp? Would you even say, or do you say anything about the tournaments where they shoot carp and weigh in dead carp to the tune of tons. Oh, and by the way, it during the spawn when they shoot them. If you want to make yourself sound like a conservationist, defend the CARP>>>> I put no words in your mouth my friend, just clarifying what you are saying. By saying you seen dead sauger implys there were many, you never stated a number. It is guys like you that blow things up, not me. There you go again.Twist everything around.First we were talking about sauger and you changed it to carp.What will it be next,Dolphins?And no I wouldnt catagorize sauger with carp.I hope they kill all the carp in the Illinois before somebody gets killed by one.So shoot all you can during the spawn.And yes,you were trying to put words in my mouth.Im done arguing with you because you make no sense. | |||
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| tyee |
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Member Posts: 1406 | Stacker, How did the carp fishermen get brought into this they have rights too. The guy has a valid point of view that many people have about tourneys and you slam him for it instead of enlightening him about the sport.. There are many fish that taste like crap your analogy is way off base. Try education instead your post came off more arrogant than helpfull! Good Luck Tyee | ||
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| stacker |
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Member Posts: 2445 Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Sorry tyee, I am so sorry. man, o man, he say protect a specie during the spawn, but not ALL of them? Carp are not a fish? Educate him? he has allready said that he knows it all and now you are a moderator? I really dont need you to tell me what to do. | ||
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| saugers2 |
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Member Posts: 82 | This guy sounds like a super troller. I live in SV, am a member of the SV walleye club...fish the river enough, used to fish it a ton. I have never heard of any locals saying they want to limit tournaments coming to town. Haven't heard much about locals wanting a season, its been mentioned before without much actual discussion with the IDNR that I know of. Locals don't keep a ton of sauger and walleye from the Illinois, a few do and I am sure it hurts a fishery to remove the big ones. But, they really do taste awful, and just sort of snicker when I hear people tell me how good they taste. Those people have never tasted a real walleye IMHO. The ramp supports the number of tournaments easily, the public is never denied access to the ramp during tournaments....most businesses are happy to see fishermen. So, guest...without a name behind the post, it is really just a chance for you to bash and e-flame. If you are really working that hard at protecting the fishery, I would think you would just post your name....like I will. Mike Richetta | ||
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| RedNeckTech |
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Member Posts: 319 | The way I am reading this is Guest's point is there are 7 tournaments during spawn on the river. Why not spread them out over the spring and summer instead of having that many in a one month period? Like anything else tournaments have to be concerned about image and if the public perception is an image of tournaments abusing the river in a one month period, that will have a resounding knock right at the DNR's door. It doesn't matter what the number of dead fish that are seen floating by the public, any number will always raise a voice of concern whether it is justified or not. I think Guest does bring up a valid point. | ||
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| eye lunker -logged o |
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| Hey tyee why dont you and your guest friend start your own thread instead of high jacking a legit posting by rich? Why is that every time there is a tourny posting in the forum and a few guest pop on here and have negative things to say toward tourny and your right there defending what there saying? | |||
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| bradley894 |
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| well... this is getting interesting... all i would like to remind everyone is without the spring tournaments (clubs) mwc ect... there would be hardly a sauger fishery at all.. what makes the location attractive is the fact of OPEN Water early in the year. and if the water clairity is ok a great time to be had by all... its a spring destination for tournament anglers made from something that hardly supported fish at all... let the boys have there tournaments.. as far as the spawn? when the mwc comes to town what do you think happend all these years to those fish... each one got some help spawning and created a far greater servival and fish count than would have happend naturaly... this is a good thing! its also a good thing that those who live close have a place to enjoy themselves .. maybe IN TIME... the water can clean itself up enough to produce something a bit more edible .. it will take time but someday for our kids or grandkids one by one the dumping and drainage will be cut back... NOT OVERNIGHT but its gonna happen... with the crappy spring weather i dont for the life of me know what peoples complaints would be if a bunch of folks show up and have a fishing derby? just dont understand.... gonna upset the rowing team? pleasure boaters? the folks on shore when its 45 and raining outside ? just let it be.... there is a good turn out for this body of water this time of year just go with it... there are other places to go a month later... and as the months pass you see the game head north.. or to the great lakes... big deal.. and Carp are fish... ask any kid who has one take hold of his snoopy pole... piece and love... Brad | |||
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| bradley894 |
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| yes and before folks from out of the aria get in a tizzy because its a spawning ground they need to take a drive and see what goes on with a tournament catch when the local clubs tournament organizers and dnr get togather to grab these fish ready for the spawn and give them some modern day help... do you have any idia how many saugers are hatched that wouldnt have made it with these efforts that have been going on for many many many years? | |||
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| Rich S |
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| Right on Bradley! The DNR works hand in hand with the MWC at the weigh-ins. They use the eggs for stocking the Illinois and other fisheries in Illinois. For those of you that have not fished there before the DNR takes and strips the eggs of all the females as they are brought in. In my conversations with the DNR at the weigh-ins, they are delighted we are there. Now, I can completely understand Guests thoughts but once you have seen this in person and talked to the DNR it is obvious this is a good thing. I can also say that I have never nor do I know anyone that has had a fish die dring that tournament. I am sure a few are lost but with water temps around 40 and the usually calm water it is harder for them to die then stay alive. I have seen a lot of floating animals but they usually have hair on them and go "MOOOOO" | |||
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| Rich S |
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saugers2 - 1/19/2009 4:39 PM This guy sounds like a super troller. I live in SV, am a member of the SV walleye club...fish the river enough, used to fish it a ton. I have never heard of any locals saying they want to limit tournaments coming to town. Haven't heard much about locals wanting a season, its been mentioned before without much actual discussion with the IDNR that I know of. Locals don't keep a ton of sauger and walleye from the Illinois, a few do and I am sure it hurts a fishery to remove the big ones. But, they really do taste awful, and just sort of snicker when I hear people tell me how good they taste. Those people have never tasted a real walleye IMHO. The ramp supports the number of tournaments easily, the public is never denied access to the ramp during tournaments....most businesses are happy to see fishermen. So, guest...without a name behind the post, it is really just a chance for you to bash and e-flame. If you are really working that hard at protecting the fishery, I would think you would just post your name....like I will. Mike Richetta Thanks for your input Mike! Any chance you could let the club members know about this tournament?? I can get you some brochures if you would like to hand out. Let me know | |||
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| Guest |
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| If the DNR is the reason for the sauger population,then why were there more sauger before they got involved? | |||
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| Rich S |
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Guest - 1/19/2009 6:29 PM If the DNR is the reason for the sauger population,then why were there more sauger before they got involved? Not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to figure out your way of thinking. Are you saying the DNR is actually hurting the sauger population?? How can stocking saugers hurt the population?? Out of a couple thousand fish caught during the MWC they lose about 50 but the DNR plant MILLIONS and that is a bad thing?? I know I am from Wisconsin but I cannot follow that logic. What am I missing?? | |||
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| Guest |
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| The whole point of all of this is there are too many tournaments here at one time and the point is going to get pushed very hard this spring.Something needs to be done.Either a season or restricted area during spawn.Why do some states have seasons?I would think it is for the spawn.We will see what the DNR decides to do for next year.Hopefully they will do somthing like the mentioned above. Im done with this thread for good now.Maybe we could start one next year and see if anything changes.I bet it will. | |||
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