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| 55 boats! Wow, you think they are rethinking making this a AA League? |
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| R u sh*ting me? |
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| I wouldn't do that. Just heard from nearly half the field after the meeting. That would be about 20 guys that texted or called with the exciting news. I think there are some really unhappy hombre's in Detroit.
Also, seems to be a few stickerless "blue" kickers on the Rude powered boats. That 250 lb E-Tec kicker isn't making much of a splash so far.
1-3's predicted for tomorrow on Erie. 4-6 Friday morning. Water, including the river is crystal clear.
Seems wierd that the first day is Thursday.
Pretty much it for coverage anywhere. You heard it hear First! |
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| it's going to a tough year. people can,t aford the prices anymore especaily with this economy,, unless your sponserd. which are far from few,, the guys that say they make a living fishing? that not true they make there money from sponsors and other activites , but they cannot make a living fishing tournments alone. not walleye fisherman , maybe bass but it's still tough. |
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Location: Darboy, wi | Do you think having 6 tournaments has anything to do with it? |
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| Looks like this will be the last year for the FLW. Payouts will be ugly. You could make more money picking up pop cans in a ditch. |
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| kinda sad but in a way i think it serves them right with the new format and payouts, the league guys in wisconsin and minnesota supported most of the league events over the past several years, what did we get for that? The average weekend angler is sure out of it be it money or available time off. It will be interesting to see how many guys make the jump from the league to the new format, my guss is less than 5%. It is a good oppurtunity for the guys that were on the fence and wanted to dabble in the tour side now can at reduced cost. I guess you can call it a changing of the times but the walleye tourney future sure looks bleak....Hopefully AIM grows this year, at least the pros will have somethng to fish if AIM keeps growing and takes off Good luck to all that participate in the new FLW format, now where did I put those golf clubs 8 years ago????
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| I don't Know? but i do know , i have a hard time with tournaments that come out the area that can,t pronounce the citys name if you know i mean! theres more money spent on their fantasy fishing than there is for the tournament. |
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| This is a sad day for us as tournament anglers. First the PWT, now it isn;t looking good for the FLW. Who could have perdicted this when the RCL was paying 400 gs for the winner of their Championship. I hate to even guess how many will be at the ILL. river event... John Schneider |
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Location: Darboy USA | I agree 100% with Shep on his opinion about dropping the leagues. One of the worst decisions the FLW has ever made and I hope that isn't the start of the demise for them. I also feel bad for the Pros who had counted on the FLW continuing to run a great Tour level program as in years past, gonna be awfully hard to be a "Walleye Pro" just by fishing alone these days. Probably why some of the best sticks in the world aren't fishing this anymore.
I do hope this catapults AIM into bigger and better things and that they draw a lot more interest this year. Seems to be more guys fishing all of these events and dropping FLW from what I've heard, which I think is great. The CRR format is the future of fishing and I wish AIM nothing but the best for 2010. I hope they can start drawing 75+ boats consistently this year.
Good luck to all AIM and FLW pros this year, I hope you can survive this bump in the road and make the most of your now limited options.
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Based on 55 fisherman what are they going to pay out, the top 5...10...15? How much will the payout be? What a shame!! |
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Location: Badgerland | ABOUT 36.66% OF WHAT THE PAYOUTS WERE BASED ON 150 BOATS.
http://walleyetour.flwoutdoors.com/tournament.cfm?cid=5&did=0&t=det...
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Location: Rhinelander | Doing the percentage math, I'd say First will be over 9K and under 10K. |
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| Jayman - 4/8/2010 4:25 PM
Why is it such a joke that the number of boats are low for the FLW in Detroit? No one was laughing last year at AIM with only 50-60 boat fields. I don't find anything funny about the state of the walleye tournament world these days. It's good to have competition and options.
No one was laughing last year? I recall some outright disdain for AIM before they even held a tourney, and some definate glee that they didn't have the big fields. Here, and especially over there at WC.
Is it a joke that they only had 55 boats at Detroit? No. But it was certainly predicted that lowering the enties, and payouts would have an adverse effect on who was going to participate. Considering FLW is over a decade old, it is the established circuit, it is sad to see this happen.
I said when the PWT was shutting down, that competition was healthy and needed for the FLW to grow. Since the demise of the PWT, the FLW has declined each year, to a point that it can't even be considered a premier circuit at this time. |
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| Mr. Darboy - 4/8/2010 8:57 AM I agree 100% with Shep on his opinion about dropping the leagues. One of the worst decisions the FLW has ever made and I hope that isn't the start of the demise for them. I agree. Instead of investing a small amount of money into making the Leagues a little more economically viable to fish and promoting future tournament anglers, they did what they did, and now they got what they got. |
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| I agree with you Shep and as everybody knows Aim was the brunt of alot of criticism and the laughing stock by many onlookers. But one of the things that stands out about AIM is the fact it is owned by the fisherman who wanted to protect their future and every other tournament fisherman's future by moving forward with the times instead of just continuing down the same dead end road. I truly believe that in order to have a successful circuit the fisherman's feelings have to come into play, you can't have a circuit without the fisherman. They want to fish at a location were they can catch fish, feel safe, not have to travel all over the country during these tough times, and have fun doing it. You take these things away from them along with the chance to make money, what do you have left??? John Schneider |
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| I'll throw this in... could it be guys are looking to stay local this year. they have an east and west right? this being the eastern most event first of the year. just a groggy thought. I'll have to check the results. |
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| Checked the results. nice weights! The thing that hit me is the fact that 110 guys are fishing in a tournament and I'm getting ready to do 8 miles in a rainstorm. I know where I would rather be. If it was closer...
From results posted A few weeks ago here, I'd say the next event on the ill river may have a good turnout. my 2 cents. |
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| Part of the problem is the East/West and the added 2 tourneys. Coupled with the lower payout schedule, it made if economically impossible for most of the touring pro's to do all 6 qualifiers. Again, another decision that results in lower entrees.
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| Shep the whole problem is payouts... It doesn't matter if it is six or four tournaments, when you go to these places for ten to fourteen days you have hotel expenses, gas, food, and many others. Not counting wear and tear on vehicles and hopefully no breakdowns. If the touring pro can't make money with a good finish they arn't going to come. In order to have good payouts #1 you need to have entry fees high so the projected prize pool can be high, #2 you need the touring pros and locals signing up. there for the prize pool is high, the fisherman will come otherwise they will fish the local stuff and just have fun. I myself would have fished the east if it wasnt for the low payout and the ILL. river event. Didn't want to go fish spawned out saugers... |
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| 55 boats weighed fish it doesnt mean there was only 55 boats in the tourny? Any one have true and accurate numbers? Looking on flw website they dont have standing listed as of yet inwich the bolo's would be listed also! |
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Location: Menasha, WI | Ritch, The full field is listed under 'Pairings' at the FLW site. There are only 55 boats. Nobody zeroed yesterday.
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| http://walleyetour.flwoutdoors.com/tournament.cfm?dpl=1&all=1&sr=51&rpp=50&cid=5&t=pairings&tid=6502&tday=2&sort=bn Shows 55 anglers paired up on the pairings page. |
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Location: Appleton wi | Thanks Bob, I'd agree with with john and shep. Its all coming down to cost vs potential return and at the same time team tourny's seem to be remaing strong. It will be interesting to see how AIM does this year |
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| after sitting back and reading for months without commenting for fear of going of on one of my many uncontroled rants with run on sentances , poor spelling and gramatical errors. i have no comment. but it all makes me kinda sad. ok just one little comment. the country is heading in the wrong direction to support competitive walleye fishing. expences cant be covered without finnishing in the top 5 % of the fields (if that) sponsorship and promotional funds will continue to be cut due to decreasing sales revinue in a national fishing market that will continue to slow. our youth does not fish. they go to McDonalds for fish. when it costs the average guy 100 dollars in fuel 5 bucks at the launce, 20 bucks for soda and snacks .10 for bait, a standard day on the water gets a little nuts with a full size truck and larger boat. time to buy an old aluminum 16 or 17 footer with an old tiller! time to keep and eat your fish, dig your own worms, make your own sandwich and pull the boat with the car. do a bar tournament now and then for braging rights and count your blessings that you will have a roof over your head in 5 years. we had a good run.
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