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Location: Oshkosh,WI | This is a complete list of all the tournaments that have been registered through the DNR this year. Do you think there needs to be a limit on how many tournaments this body of water can take? Other thoughts and comments on the amount of Tournaments? Total registered are 68.
Date Species Tournament Name Weigh-in Weigh-in Contact Person Phone
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April 3, 2004 Walleye Hahn's Walleye Tournament Hahn-a-lula Resort, Fremont 2:00 PM Ron Naparalla 920-446-2685
April 3 - 4, 2004 Walleye Red Banks Resort Walleye Tournament Red Banks Resort, Fremont 2:30 PM Robert Caryl 920-446-2933
April 10, 2004 Walleye Slipknot Walleye Tournament Slipknot Bar, Fremont 2:00 PM Peter Meyerhofer 920-446-2707
April 17, 2004 Walleye Starboard Restaurant and Lounge Walleye Tour. Hotel Fremont, Fremont 3:30 PM Tamra Braun 920-446-2402
April 18, 2004 Walleye Gander Mountain Grand Natl. Walleye Cup Wolf R. House Resort, Winneconne 3:00 PM Bernie Barringer 218-587-2864
April 21 - 23, 2004 Walleye In-Fisherman Professional Walleye Trail Wolf R. House Resort, Winneconne 3:00 PM Charlie Moore 218-824-2532
April 24, 2004 Walleye Fort Fremont Walleye Classic Fort Fremont Marine, Fremont 1:30 PM Dennis Fox 920-446-3220
April 24, 2004 Walleye Red Banks Resort Walleye Tournament Red Banks Resort, Fremont 2:30 PM Robert Caryl 920-446-2933
April 25, 2004 Walleye World Walleye Association Wolf River House, Winneconne 3:00 PM Steve Poll 920-924-2100
April 25, 2004 Bass N.E.W. Team Tournament Trail 2004 Wolf River Resorts, Winneconne 3:00 PM Mark A. Soletske 715-735-7765
April 25, 2004 Bass Bronze Back Spring Open J.W. Stringers, Weyauwega 3:00 PM Geoffrey Williams 920-867-2773
May 1, 2004 Bass American Bassfishing Club, Inc. County Park, Winneconne 3:00 PM Mark Daniels 920-851-2848
May 1, 2004 Bass Mid-American Tournament Authority Wolf River House, Winneconne 2:00 PM Lori Berthold 815-338-2010
May 2, 2004 Walleye Midwest Walleye Series - Winnebago Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Jim Coon 920-731-3474
May 7-9, 2004 Bass Wis. State Bass Federation (Zone 5) County Park, Winneconne 2:00 PM Gordie Seigl, Jr. 262-363-5091
May 8, 2004 Various Butte des Morts Lions Club Fishing Tournament Tilly's Too Bar, Butte des Morts 1:00 PM Tom Marquardt 920-231-0812
May 15, 2004 Walleye Terry's Bar Walleye Tournament Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Garry Winchester 920-426-1581
May 15, 2004 Bass Wolf River Bass Club Spring Open Secrets Bar, Orihula 3:30 PM Henry Fabisiak, Jr. 920-982-5867
May 15, 2004 Walleye Schrage's Talk of the Town Walleye Tournament Columbia Park, Pipe Noon Ted Schrage 920-795-4579
May 15, 2004 Walleye Last Chance Walleye Tournament Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Roman Zelhofer 920-233-6072
May 22, 2004 Walleye Nigl's 11th Annual Walleye Tournament Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Susan Schroeder 920-426-2915
May 22, 2004 Walleye 16th Annual John Deere Walleye Classic Wendt's on the Lake, Van Dyne 2:30 PM John Puetz 920-689-2464
May 22, 2004 Walleye North Shore Walleye Tournament Jefferson Park, Menasha 1:00 PM Paul Reichel 920-751-8869
May 22, 2004 Walleye City Slickers City Slickers Bar, Fond du Lac 1:00 PM Peter Guell 920-923-5705
May 22, 2004 Walleye Quinney Quencher Walleye Tournament Brothertown Harbor, Brothertown 12:00 PM Paul Schneider 920-439-1341
May 23, 2004 Bass Mid-American Tournament Authority Wolf River House, Winneconne 2:00 PM Lori Berthold 815-338-2010
May 23, 2004 Bass Wisconsin Federation National Bass Tournament Hahn-a-Lula Resort, Fremont 2:00 PM Terry Hilbert 920-982-3625
May 29, 2004 Bass Oshkosh Bass Masters Spring Open Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Chris Wenzel 920-969-7114
May 29, 2004 Walleye Trip's Walleye Tournament Columbia Park, Pipe 1:00 PM Randy Tripke 920-795-4163
May 29, 2004 Walleye Houge's 9th Annual Walleye Warm-up Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Randy Harwood 920-426-1370
May 29, 2004 Walleye 1st Annual Brothertown Walleye Open Brothertown Harbor, Brothertown 12:00 PM Robert Krupp 920-849-2916
June 5, 2004 Walleye 2nd Annual Stockbridge Walleye Tournament Stockbridge Harbor, Stockbridge 1:00 PM James Levknecht 920-427-4826
June 5, 2004 Walleye UAW 291 Walleye Tournament Menominee Park, Oshkosh 1:00 PM Steve Karow 920-235-1257
June 5, 2004 Walleye Van Dyne Lions Club Walleye Tournament Van Dyne Park, Van Dyne 2:00 PM Gerald Kalbus 920-426-0062
June 5, 2004 Various Wolf River Resort Open Wolf River House, Winneconne 3 and12 pm Doug Nelson 920-5824555
June 5, 2004 Walleye Boom Bay Resort Walleye Tournament Boom Bay Resort, Larsen 2:00 PM Donna Stoffel 920-836-2073
June 5, 2004 Walleye Fisherman's Road Fishing Club Walleye Tour. Fisherman's Road Clubhouse, FDL 12:00 PM Andrew Schumacher 920-753-2807
June 5 - 6, 2004 Bass Waupaca Bass Club Annual Musc. Dys. Open Hahn-a-lula Resort, Fremont 2:00 PM Terry Hilbert 920-982-4982
June 5 - 6, 2004 Walleye World Walleye Association Menominee Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Steve Poll 920-924-2100
June 12 - 13, 2004 Walleye Mercury Marine National Walleye Tournament Lakeside Park, Fond du Lac 2:00 PM Dick Hackbarth 920-447-5571
June 15, 2004 Walleye Calumet Co. Law Enforcement Walleye Tourn. Stockbridge Harbor, Stockbridge 2:30 PM Todd Konen 920-849-1447
June 19 - 20, 2004 Walleye Otter Street Walleye Tournament Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:30 PM James Gibson 920-235-7144
June 26, 2004 Walleye Last Chance Summer Walleye Tournament Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Roman Zelhofer 920-233-6072
June 26, 2004 Walleye Brickyard 4th Annual Walleye Tournament Calumet Co. Park, 2:00 PM Scott Schierl 920-439-1478
June 26, 2004 Walleye Fisherman's Inn Walleye Tournament Brothertown Harbor, Brothertown 12:00 PM James Halbach 920-849-2460
June 26, 2004 Walleye Penelope's Walleye Tournament Penelope's Bar, Van Dyne 2:00 PM Ronald Goebel 920-921-1096
June 26 - 27, 2004 Walleye Masters Walleye Circuit Menominee Park, Oshkosh 4:00 PM Kristine Houtman 952-988-7116
June 27, 2004 Walleye WalleyeFirst Website Tournament Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Steve Worrall 715-362-1760
July 10, 2004 Bass Wal-Mar Bass Fishing League Wolf R. House, Winneconne 2:30 PM Dave Maxfield 270-252-1587
July 10, 2004 Sheepshead Omro Kiwanis Sheepshead Tournament Scott Park, Omro 3:00 PM Larry Schuster 920-685-6211
July 10, 2004 Roughfish Shiocton Ruff-Fish Tournament Ken's Riverside landing, Shiocton 4:00 PM Tim Conradt 920-986-3898
July 10, 2004 Walleye Grande Company Walleye Tournament Hwy 45 Wayside, Fond du Lac 2:00 PM Mark Eilbes 920-583-4379
July 10, 2004 Walleye Neighborhood Pub and Grill Walleye Tournament Stockbridge Harbor, Stockbridge 12:00 PM Denise Woelfel 920-849-3799
July 10 - 11, 2004 Walleye Wal-Mart RCL Walleye League Menominee Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Sonny Reynolds 270-252-1591
July 11, 2004 Bass Mid-American Tournament Authority Wolf River House, Winneconne 2:00 PM Lori Berthold 815-338-2010
July 17, 2004 Sheepshead Oshkosh Elks Sheepshead Tournament Rainbow Park, Oshkosh 3:00 PM Bob Miller 920-233-1290
July 17, 2004 Bass Bronze Back Summer Open Slip Knot Bar, Fremont 3:00 PM Geoffrey Williams 920-867-2773
July 17, 2004 Walleye Pop's Walleye Tournament Payne's Point Bar, Neenah 2:00 PM Dale Frank 920-722-1048
July 25, 2004 Bass N.E.W. Team Tournament Trail 2004 Wolf River Resorts, Winneconne 3:00 PM Mark A. Soletske 715-735-7765
July 31, 2004 Walleye Spellman's Marina Walleye Tournament Spellman's Marina, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Jason Brauch 920-779-0736
August 7, 2004 Walleye Fleet Farm Open Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Jim Coon 920-731-3474
August 7 - 8, 2004 Roughfish Wis. Bowfishing Assoc. Tournament Lang's landing, Winneconne 6:00 AM Brett Stapelmann 608-513-2211
August 15, 2004 Bass N.E.W. Team Tournament Trail 2004 Wolf River Resorts, Winneconne 3:00 PM Mark A. Soletske 715-735-7765
August 21, 2004 Bass Trip's Smallmouth Tournament Columbia Park, Pipe 1:00 PM Marianne Wagner 920-795-4163
August 22, 2004 Bass Mid-American Tournament Authority Wolf River House, Winneconne 2:00 PM Lori Berthold 815-338-2010
Sept. 18 - 19, 2004 Bass American Bassfishing Club, Inc. County Park, Winneconne 2:30 PM Mark Daniels 920-851-2848
Sept. 19, 2004 Bass Hooked on a Cure CF Benefit Menominne Park, Oshkosh 2:30 PM Chris Wenzel 920-969-7114
October 2, 2004 Bass Wolf River Bass Club Fall Open Riverside Park, New London 3:00 PM Henry Fabisiak, Jr. 920-982-5867
October 9, 2004 Walleye Midwest Walleye Series Championship Menominee Park, Oshkosh 2:00 PM Jim Coon 920-731-3474
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| Nice to see Kendal found some free time to get this to you! Did he have an opinion as to what is going to happen next year? I think 68 tourneys that have more than 20 boats is quite a bit although there doesn't seem to be enough rough fish events! Hopefully he'll pop on here and keep us updated on the happenings with the new rules for next year!
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Well, this is only part of the equation. We also need to know how many participants are in each event, whether there has been any complaints by other users, and the best guess estimate on the future health of the target speices.
Also, I would want to know the off and peak months of other users, and plan to issue permits in regards to this use. Anotherwords (for you speed readers), we all know the Wolf is packed with 'other users' during the spring walleye run and would not issue permits for this area ( at this time of course).
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Location: Appleton wi | Whats the major complaint? Is it just too many tourny's? |
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| must be no complaints besides the two post above. so it should be a dead issue |
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Pffft! This regulation is just beginning. My bet is the wonks at Resources have already begun to occupy chairs seated at the round table of discussion... |
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Location: Milw, WI | My thoughts are Directors need to get the permit apps. in as soon as poss. because they now have greater control.
But it is also in my mind that they will not be turning down the $. |
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| What money? it don't cost anything to get a permit, except your time. I don't forsee it changing on the 'bago system anytime in the near future. I think Kendall has a good handle on what 'Bago is capable of producing and how many fish can be removed from the system. It's also a great research tool, surveys of sauger caught and released during the Otter Street tourney, for example.
I've heard it a couple times this summer already from "oldtimers" that have fished for years. "Best fishing I can remember on 'Bago" This was heard from a guy fishing 'bago for 20 years. Granted only an opinion.
The population of walleyes and size structure has continually gotten better in the last 10 years, even with the increased number of tourneys. 2+2 will tell you it has affected the population minimally.
Also, looking at the number of bass tourneys, a considerable number. I rarely hear complaints of too many bass tourneys or bass tourneys are killing all the bass. Granted I've not surrounded myself with that fishing environment. But it's my feeling that more people are concerned about walleye for they're own selfish greed, putting food on the table. Just an opinion.
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Location: Appleton wi | Jayman i agree with you. The fishing has never been better for walleyes fishing in my 30years fishing the system and this defintly has been my best year on bago'! I would think with today resources and access to them via computors that the Dnr would have made this more of public question if it was truelly was a issue of the majority? Has this been brought up in past DNR public meetings and what was said? |
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| Eye lunker,
I'm baseing my opinion on my own experience and what I've heard from Kendall via personally speaking with him at Sturgeon for Tomorrow or Walleyes for tomorrow banquets. And what has been published by Kendall and Walleyes for tomorrow, regarding spawning success and safe harvest limits and why tourneys are a benefit as a research tool.
I think once Safe harvest limits or Spawing success becomes a problem will we need to look at tourneys and only after other methods of control are exhausted.
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No Jayman, no horse under my arse.
Never once did any of my posts put a negative towards any tournament. None, Nada, Nein. The problems I have addressed have been related towards the culling issue and at self-important jacks - such as yourself - who think that your tournament entry is more important to the exsistence of walleye fishing, than even the walleyes themselves.
You must think tournament fishing is a religion...
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A religion?!?....hmmmmm.....probably so since I prefer to spend my sundays on the water and not in church.
Edited by Jayman 7/27/2004 2:01 PM
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Nope, no complaints with me. Just pointing out the antics of you mid-level wannabe tournament fishing stars who have taken competition beyond the weighing of walleyes.
Do realize your ignorance and will help you to understand something. Tournaments are only businesses and operate to make a profit. They exsist because there are willing participants AND largess of the general public, as they ply their trade on the public's domain.
It is good for tournaments to be regulated - hopefully by the managing biologists and not by politics - because there can be user conflicts (jammed up public launches, tournament anglers grouping up on well-known fishing spots, ect.). These conflicts will cause anti-tournament sentiment. Now if you could, just project the last ten years of tournament growth into the future, the numbers do show great potential for problems.
So you see, it is just not the walleyes in the system, that those at the Resources will be considering when working out the new rules. Your belief that everything is fine notwithstanding.
Edited by Rick Larson 7/25/2004 5:16 PM
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Location: Milw, WI | Jayman,
Fact ........
Rick Larson asked me if I wanted to fish in your tourney the week it got posted here.
I was leary because of the time of year.
No longer fact.....
If you got to know Him, I am sure you would get along.
Sounds like a day on the water is needed here.
As to the money, permit fees will be coming.
And I was referring to the local money spent, all the costs. |
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| Rich, you are correct here, there will be an increase and it would be nice to participate on the commitee assigned to setting these new rules and regs without being influenced by directors and corporations. There are going to be many changes regarding tournaments and there WILL be politics involved believe you me!!! There is no way you are not going to see influential people on this board. I'm sure some of the major tournement organizations are preparing for this and WILL have an influence on the decissions being made. As for the fee, I'd love to see the DNR/State get at least 25.00 per head in an event! Now that might take away the concern about harvesting the state allowed limit wouldn't it?
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It won't matter Tyee. The more it's scewed towards tournaments, the more anti-sentiment there will be amongst the general public. And they will force a correction.
Please believe me, there are many fishing these tournaments who think they have more rights to the fish than anyone. If left unchecked, tournament anglers will be the undoing of tournaments.
I'm totally bewildered how these tournament anglers are so intolerant. It's the general fishing public who are the market for the goods and services that sponsor these tournaments, and therefore, the anglers who participate. Yet, these anglers have this holier than thou attitude (i.e. culling allowed for tournaments only, believing they have rights to a certain fishing spot, bullying other fisherman who have a different point of view, ect., ect., ect.) towards this very market.
To be redundant from a past post. Besides the fish, the most important aspect in fishing is the person who has only the idea to fish. From that point on, this consumer is watching and learning - from those who are forthcoming and friendly - and will be buying the goods and services needed to become a better fisherperson.
Anotherwords, the tournament angler has no value to the tournaments they participate in, if he/she is unwillingly to put that first time fisherperson above him/herself. So this attitude from Jayman (and others) is beyond my obviously limited scope.
Nonetheless, the market will have the last word.
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| Rick, I appreciate your views and opinions as you well know, Although the crowd you speak of (hollier than though tournament anglers) is the minority. Those guys will get their due dilligence in time and will be humbled I'm sure.
Tournament angling on Wisconsin waters has gone on for years and will continue to grow don't you think? It's not about the money is it? It's the competative nature in many and the input from these people that make this craft a hobby to compete put forth much more to the sport than the general population would ever in a lifetime. Even the small tournamnet circuts push healthy dollars into the local economy from the competative angler.
New anglers come and go every year, many of them think they can compete and end up finding out otherwise. The true tournament angler is not only in it for the competition but the comoradorie and if a person doesn't have the necessary social (hard skills) and technical(soft skills) they won't last long in this field. Competative fishing will continue to grow and will be a source of education to many, and manufacturers recognize that and will continue to beckon your hard earned dollar. I know they get a good portion of mine annually!
Eye Lunker, The issue of more regulationn over tournament fishing did not get presented to the general public (ie. spring hearings) as many other items do regarding our resource because there was a bill (AB569) that needed to be addressed regarding culling in Bass tournaments presented earlier this year. The DNR responded with a bill (AB623) and a compromise was made at the governement level. (Weather good or bad is yet to be seen). There will definately be issues, from both businesses and the general public, as to what rules and regulations will be made as more and more of the general public get involved in competative fishing.
Good Luck
Tyee
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Thanx Tyee. That is well put and will agree with you. Sometimes those few 'bad incidents' can dominate one's thinking.:-) |
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| WOW, I guess for the most part I have to agree with what Rick Larsen said. The events are run for profit and going forward without regulation would be bad for fishing. In fact although the POPULARITY of walleye fishing is at an all time high, general fishing numbers are DOWN. Terminal tackle sales, licenses etc all down in numbers. That's what can happen when a simple thing such as fishing becomes "in appearance" high tech, high horse powered and high testosterone. Also, the DNR has been lobbying for the right to say NO to a tournament, (or regulate tournaments) for awhile, not just in response to bill AB569. So now the job of deciding just how many is too many is at hand. Personally I hope it's fewer, much fewer. We need some tournament free weekends in the spring on the Wolf River. Too many bars holding events IMHO.
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| Doc, What does this mean "POPULARITY of walleye fishing is at an all time high, general fishing numbers are DOWN."? Are you refering to product sales, license sales or fish numbers?
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | Why do we need fewer tournaments?
Do you guys honestly believe fewer boats will be on the water? That fewer fish will be harvested?
Why should I have to give up my time on the water when the whitebass anglers are out in force? When the pleasure boaters want to enjoy their hobby?
We ALL have equal access to the water. If your worried about damaging the image of tournament angling, lobby tournament bodies to come down harder on enforceing the sportmenship clauses in their events. This rule should be used to ensure something that is grossly wrong does not occur (a 300 boat event on Mothers Day out of Fremont), but other than that, I certainly hope it is used sparingly.
I'm not abtuse - I know as well as anyone how crowded the Wolf, Fox, and Winnebago can get. But let's think this through before we jump to any conclusions. While Wisconsin license sales have been flat or declined in recent years, only California, Texas, and Minnesota sell more licenses than Wisconsin does (4th in sales and 18th in population). That suggests that we are still doing something right.
Perhaps we are selling less licenses, but those buying them fish twice as much as they did 10 years ago?
Here's a decent article on some possible reasons for the decline in sales.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/local_9472627.shtm...
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Brad, it doesn't appear any of the *few brave souls* here voicing an opinion is jumping to any conclusions.
Think a bit about the perception of tournaments in the minds of those who would never want to participate. Then, add to this an event (or two) where a tournament angler buzzed someone out fishing in a small boat.
As this fisher rocked, my guess is there were a few choice words voiced towards this large fishingboat.
Or, in an effort to gain the prize (under pressure to pay for the big debt needed to obtain the equipment), a tournament angler moves in and forces a fisherman out of a spot.
This is the cause of anti-tournament sentiment, and it is growing. So, in my opinion, growth in tournaments equals growth in anti-tournament sentiment.
You are right in stating tournament bodies need to enforce sportsmenship rules, but those newer events - under pressure to fill the roster - will not be interested in limiting their ability to fill out by disallowing participation.
What I am voicing (Doc too? Oh my God I'm going to faint!) is not against tournaments in general, but limits as to the number of anglers being able to participate - in total - on the chain at one time, and the timing.
I am sure there will be much 'DISCUSSION' about this matter in the near future. So we all should get a chance to voice our opinions to those who will be making this decision.
Please consider this, if there are restrictions placed on tournaments, it will provide relief to those who do not like them. And if restrictions do happen, I am sure there will be plenty events scheduled where us tournament anglers will be able to compete our hearts out..
Edited by Rick Larson 7/27/2004 1:59 PM
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Location: Berlin | It was worth the two hours I just spent reading this post to see that Rick and Doc agree on SOMETHING!!!! lol. I personally don't know what to think. The system can easily handle it but it is the local fisherman that is bothered most. The launches keep getting more and more packed. Now close down Millers Bay and there is no room left. Several times this year I have had to use a different launch because my normal launch is full. That hardly ever happened before. Fact is that tournament fishing is only going to get bigger. What now, I don't know. |
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| Tyee, license sales, terminal tackle sales and other industry indicators show a decline in recreational fishing. My view on the DNR having control over tournament fishing has NOTHING to do with fish numbers and everything to do with having control and the right to say NO when the saturation point of tournament hours, days or anglers reach a limit that is set with the entire scope of anglers and recreational boaters on a particular body of water in mind.
Rick, I had to breath in to a bag for a minute too when we agreed on something LOL
Edited by Joel "Doc" Kunz 7/27/2004 12:37 PM
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