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Jayman
Posted 1/14/2005 12:30 PM (#26389)
Subject: Is it luck?



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After commenting on Capt. Dan's thread. It got me wondering.....many fisherman have a feeling of luck. I have to believe there are plenty of guys that do something or think something to increase thier luck. Much like many professional athletes have been known to do strange things for good luck.


I'm curious what others do, What do you do to improve your luck? any superstitions?


I was once told about tossing nickels into the water to bring good luck and I have tried this.
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Hafe
Posted 1/14/2005 12:41 PM (#26391 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Location: Omro,Wi.
Sounds like a silly waste of beer,but the first drink always goes to the lake god,just a little over the side works for me.
Never take Bannana's in a boat(bad luck)
Take chicken with you(good luck)
Never give your buddy the hot-bait,(common sense)...

Edited by Hafe 1/14/2005 12:43 PM
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walleye express
Posted 1/14/2005 1:32 PM (#26393 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
Jayman - 1/14/2005 1:30 PM

After commenting on Capt. Dan's thread. It got me wondering.....many fisherman have a feeling of luck. I have to believe there are plenty of guys that do something or think something to increase thier luck. Much like many professional athletes have been known to do strange things for good luck.


I'm curious what others do, What do you do to improve your luck? any superstitions?


I was once told about tossing nickels into the water to bring good luck and I have tried this.




Once a person (through experience) figures out the best components and tools for the job at hand, both his confidence and the reliability of these tools during their use, lends to his beliefs (supersticious or othewise) that these tools are the best or are lucky.

But this thought process again is flawed. Nobody is snake bit, or simply unlucky when it comes to fishing. Fish do not purposely single anybody out, or avoid biting their offerings on purpose. They have no sinister plott to avoid your offerings. Your either in the wrong spot, using the wrong offerings, using them in the wrong way or doing something different than Joe Blow, who's been killing them all morning. Until you think of the whole thing from that standpoint and quit blamming your bad luck on simple fate, your fishermans learning curve and confidence will be like hitting a major league fastball.

Edited by walleye express 1/14/2005 1:34 PM
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Jayman
Posted 1/14/2005 2:00 PM (#26397 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Dan, I think you may have read a bit more into what I posted than what is there. I'm just curious what others have done to change their luck.


Here's a bit more to me trying the nickels..... Really just looking to have some fun with this and see what others have done.

Last year in the Otter Street Tourney(one of the larger tourneys on Lake Winnebago),I had fished with Carrocr. Carrocr had told me prior to this tourney about some other person that tossed nickels for good luck. So on day two, we started out with a couple of fish in the box when she hit. We had a very large fish 25' off the back of the boat and just like that she popped off no head shake, nothing, just gone. After that fish came off it was quiet, way too quiet, way too long. So I had thought of the story of the nickels and tossed the only form of change in my pocket, a dime, in the drink. That dime hadn't even settled to the bottom of the lake when a board ripped back, a 3 # walleye. Before we even had that fish in the live well we had another board rip back about a 2 #'er and before we could even reset lines we had a 3rd fish in the 3-4# range to round out our limit of 6 fish. We picked them up in the short time period of about 5-10 minutes. Doing everything text book we had plugged our coordinate in the GPS and trolled over once again before we had to get back to the weigh in. Hoping for another larger fish to improve on the 15" "dink" we had in the box. But nothing else was to bite.

Yep Luck. A little bit of being in the right place at the right time and us being set-up properly. But to me that is one special dime laying in the muck of Lake Winnebago.

Edited by Jayman 1/14/2005 2:01 PM
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walleye express
Posted 1/14/2005 2:04 PM (#26398 - in reply to #26397)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Sorry Jayman.

In the true spirit of your post, I do have a fish whistle I'll pull out from time to time for those days when absolutley nothing is working.

Of course, the whislte itself then becomes part of what also (IS NOT) working.

Edited by walleye express 1/14/2005 2:42 PM
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butch
Posted 1/14/2005 2:23 PM (#26400 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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When it comes to goodluck and bad luck i have had my fair share of both. There was a couple years i could not seam to do any wrong we caught fish everywhere we went. at one tournament we brought in 3 legal walleye to weigh in not another boat caught a walleye that day. we sorted threw about 100 walleye's to get those 3 legals. Good luck ya it was lucky to find a small spot that held a large school of feading fish. And then there are years like last year where all seasone i only boated 4 legal walleye in a tournament. For one reasone or another i couldnt get them to bite or if they did they would shake off on there way up. Bad luck i think so but after a few bad outings i think the bad luck was of my own makeing i had it in my head that i was haveing a bad year. well finally towards the end of the tournament season i started to get my act together hopefully i can keep it together for the comeing year. Luck is mostly what you make of it. Seams to me most guys who start the year off on the right foot keep it going threwout the year. Those who start it off bad spend the rest of the year trying to play catch up.

Edited by butch 1/14/2005 2:26 PM
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Richfish
Posted 1/14/2005 4:32 PM (#26403 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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Location: Milw, WI
It is bad luck to promise any one fresh fish before you go fishing.


Good luck signs, forgot net, net not big enuff, and forgot camera.

My good fishing rule.
First fish gets a kiss, must go back, and tell the rest they will get released.

Edited by Richfish 1/14/2005 4:35 PM
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tyee
Posted 1/15/2005 12:01 AM (#26407 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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It's ALL Luck with a touch of skill, then again the skill is only needed if your objective is to "catch" fish.
As Always!!!!!!!!!
Good "Luck"
Tyee
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john mannerino
Posted 1/15/2005 6:00 AM (#26408 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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I carry a 1/2 dollar silver coin that my grandpa gave me 25years or so ago. I"m comfident it has put me on the right course many of times in my life. In lacrosse last spring, larry and I were waiting to get off the water in a NASTY lighting storm. I was going to set my boat on shore and wait for these guys at the ramp to get there boat on the trailer. Something told me to stay out in the water. About 2 minutes later lightning struck that spot at the base of that tree I was looking at on the shore. I thank my gramps every time I get on the water.
John Mannerino
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Sunshine
Posted 1/15/2005 6:24 AM (#26411 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Tyee,

I've fished with you, in your case it's ALL luck!
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jerry
Posted 1/15/2005 7:48 AM (#26412 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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The luck factor......I've been fortunate enough to have it work for me and I've had it "handed" to me too. One example: last year on day three of the Winneconne PWT, Pat Schuette and I were working the Clark's Bay area, trolling shad raps. During practice, we had the occasional big fish coming there with a bunch of 14-16" fish. We both made three passes over our coordinates, each picking up a 15" weigh fish. Dan Plautz pulls in, gets in behond us, puts out the same crankbait with the same amount of line out and pulls a 6 lber.....right in front of us!!! He moves up to 10th place while we head home w/o a check. Is it luck????

Cleveland PWT, last year, on day one, with three boats fishing the same area, using the same lures, I pull just short of 30 lbs. while Dan pulls 7 lbs. Same lure, same amount of line back, same speed. Is it luck???

Last fall, Sunshine and I are puilling cranks w/leadcore over the same structure on LBDN. Along with his partner, they net 26 fish that evening. I manage 7 fish. Same lure, same speed, same amount of line behind the board. Is it luck????

I believe in the luck factor. I also believe one can influence the luck factor. I am not superstitious. If I catch a fish on a certain color at a certain time in a tourney, you can bet I'm going to repeat this to a tee until I rule it out. To me, that's the most one can do to influence the luck factor. The other variables are random and they just happen.

Edited by jerry 1/15/2005 7:49 AM
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thumper
Posted 1/15/2005 8:17 AM (#26414 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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"Luck is only unplanned skill"

Dave S
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fishthrills
Posted 1/15/2005 10:48 AM (#26419 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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"The Harder I Work The Luckier I Am". I've also tryed giveing a few cents to the fish gods on those days were nothing seems to work and they still did'nt work.
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JLDII
Posted 1/15/2005 11:58 PM (#26429 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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I've always thought that luck happens when proper preparidness and opportunity come together! There is blind luck, when you stumble onto something and afterwards have to contimplate what happened and try to figure out why, and then there is the luck you "make" for yourself by diligent effort.

Do I throw coins in the water or pour a beer into the water to find it? NO!! I think, I try, I learn, and I move on. But most of all......I keep an open mind and try to think like a fish!!

(It doesn't hurt to have a good list of excuses made up in case you just totally suck on any given day though!! )
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tyee
Posted 1/16/2005 8:10 AM (#26430 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Your so right Dennis It's "ALL" luck in my boat. Merriam defines Luck as "a force that brings good fortune or adversity". I believe the real definition for luck to be: "When Hard work meets Opportunity". The harder you work the more opportunities will come your way. Weather you fish once a month or once a day the harder you work at it the more fish/success your gonna have! Now the problem I have is with the definition of fishing. Who would of thunk it would be such hard work.
Good Luck
Tyee
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terroreyes
Posted 1/16/2005 9:16 AM (#26431 - in reply to #26389)
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Don't eat fish the night before or the day I go and wear my "Crappie Attitude" shirt.
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wi_walleye
Posted 1/17/2005 8:44 AM (#26442 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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Location: Monona, WI
In fishing, "skill" is the ability to place yourself in a good position to be "lucky".
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sworrall
Posted 1/18/2005 9:31 AM (#26479 - in reply to #26442)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?




Location: Rhinelander
Luck is a component of right place, right time, right presentation. If all that happens totally without plan, it's dumb luck. If all that happens as a result of a plan, it's GREAT luck!!
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Rich S
Posted 1/18/2005 12:33 PM (#26486 - in reply to #26479)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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One of my best finishes ever came when my buddy and his partner pulled up next to me on a small reef. I did not know his partner at that time. We were watching them and I was surprised to see him just sitting there doing nothing while my buddy was doing all the work. After a few more minutes I smelled why he was just sitting there if you know what I mean. After he was done, he empties the bucket into the water. My buddy just looks at me, laughs and drives away. We watched in horror as the waves pushed it towards us. It was just about that time that the bite was on (and I mean on)! Just a coincidence? I don't think so. So I thought to myself, how can I recreate this incident? I figured it out last year. I partnered up with him for the MWC and feed him black licorish before every tournament. It sure makes for stinky fishing but I like the results! Of all the good luck charms out there, I get stuck with this one

Edited by Rich S 1/18/2005 12:34 PM
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Sunshine
Posted 1/18/2005 12:46 PM (#26487 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Rich,

There's somthing about that story that just doesn't smell right. I think your buddy is full of manure.
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Brad B
Posted 1/18/2005 1:01 PM (#26488 - in reply to #26389)
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That's not good luck Rich...
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bw
Posted 1/18/2005 1:05 PM (#26489 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


I don't care who you are thats funny right there!
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sworrall
Posted 1/18/2005 4:51 PM (#26501 - in reply to #26489)
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Location: Rhinelander
Poo luck?
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JLDII
Posted 1/18/2005 5:31 PM (#26502 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?


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Q. How was your fishing?

A. Actually, it was a little sh*tty!!
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Jayman
Posted 1/19/2005 10:18 AM (#26538 - in reply to #26389)
Subject: RE: Is it luck?



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Maybe washing your boat with bleach and water is good luck?
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