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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Had 11 E-mails this morning (mostly from this sites visitors) concerning the Wiggle Fin Discs and the way I and others are both using and modifying them for walleye trolling on the Saginaw Bay. Most asking about the rigs I mentioned on the Ruff Guy thread, about the new Double Flash rigs I'm making and wholesaling to Franks Great Outdoors in Linwood.
Some who don't really know or will ever understand my unusual habit of sharing any and all info about fishing, might assume this is a ploy by me to sell these rigs via this sites message board. And this post in essence might produce those results, but is not a ploy of mine believe me. All of these rigs (wich are not many) will sell regardless, just like all the regular ones I made last year did at Franks. This is nothing more than a winter hobby of sorts to me. And if it makes me a few extra (off season bucks) for my ideas and labor, and puts more walleye in my or your boat during the open water season, we all win. And I don't mind in the least if anybody buys the available components and/or builds or copies these rigs. There's no patent on them, and Dean at (Wiggle Fin) would love your business and/or raves about how neat and unusual his product is. With that said, heres a couple pictures of the Double Flash rigs I put together this winter. But remember, even though these rigs look to have all the right components, attraction and charm to catch some walleyes, as did and does the regular rigs. I have not tried or used these particular (doubel flash) rigs yet, and connot or will not attach any success claims to them, until after I see personally how they work and what they produce.
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| Capt.Dan.
They can say what they want about you, and they always will. But you are a Freaking artist when it comes to harness building and color schemes. |
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Location: upper michigan | Hey Capt. Dan I have a question for you I see you run a bead on the line tie Is there a special reason for this or is it just a way to mark your product? |
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does the blade slide down to the wiggle finn ? we found out that if you don't have at least 12" between the wiggle finn and the blade ,it will take the action away from the wiggle finn.
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Location: Laona, Wisconsin | You can see the metal sleeve crimped above the Wiggle Fin and below the tubing used to keep the blade above the sleeve. |
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| This rig looks intresting and i would love to try it on my home waters. Where can a guy get some of these? |
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| good eyes, albe I missed that LOL
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | butch - 3/18/2006 1:30 PM
Hey Capt. Dan I have a question for you I see you run a bead on the line tie Is there a special reason for this or is it just a way to mark your product?
Butch.
I do it for two reason. One is to stop the blade and clevis from being forced off the end of the line. And two is that I put a straight pin through this bead into the round strofoam holders I store them on so it won't wear on the line. The bead doesnt get in the way or effect the running dynamics and makes it easier to find the end of the rig when handleing it. I tie the rigs with 17# Vanish, and My old eyes need all the help they can get.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | fiveinthelive - 3/18/2006 2:12 PM
Dan
does the blade slide down to the wiggle finn ? we found out that if you don't have at least 12" between the wiggle finn and the blade ,it will take the action away from the wiggle finn.
just a suggestion
Tony Glynn
No. If you look close you'll see that I have a sleve pinched 9 inches in front of the disc, and a plastic sleve spacer on top that. The clevis and blade rides and spins on them. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | marbleye - 3/18/2006 4:40 PM
This rig looks intresting and i would love to try it on my home waters. Where can a guy get some of these?
Marbleye.
The discs can be bought from http://www.wigglefin.com The squids from Cabelas and the rest of the components from http://Jannsnetcraft.com Franks Great Outdoors might have the ones I wholesaled to him on his internet store by now. That's http://franksgreatoutdoors.com
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | Dan, have you ever had a problem with crimping those sleeves on Vanish? I mean it being a weak spot? I tried a similar concept of keeping the blade far away on normal harnesses with Trilene and they kept breaking right there under stress.
Nice looking rigs!!! |
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Location: WENATCHEE, WASHINGTON | WHAT SIZE WIGGLE FIN? |
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Do you use these as crawler harnesses or do you run them plain ??? Thanks for all the infomation, I just bought enough stuff to make 72 of them... I'm ready to give them a try!
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | terroreyes - 3/18/2006 9:34 PM
Dan, have you ever had a problem with crimping those sleeves on Vanish? I mean it being a weak spot? I tried a similar concept of keeping the blade far away on normal harnesses with Trilene and they kept breaking right there under stress.
Nice looking rigs!!!
Nope. Of course any time you pinch the line, you take a chance of creating a weak spot. I used to make my own Perch/Crappie rigs when I had my bait shop, and did a lot of sleve squeezing. I didn't use Vanish of course, becuase it wasn't even invented yet. 25 Pound Mason line was the line of choice for those type rigs. But I take special care not to over do the crimp job on these. I hope this doesn't become a problem.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | BORIGINI - 3/18/2006 9:44 PM
WHAT SIZE WIGGLE FIN?
I went with the bigger size disc, because once you get the beads and the crawler on there it becomes a lot to wiggle back and forth. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Purple Skeeter - 3/19/2006 12:53 AM
Dan,
Do you use these as crawler harnesses or do you run them plain ??? Thanks for all the infomation, I just bought enough stuff to make 72 of them... I'm ready to give them a try!
Purple Skeeter
I've had the most success with the regular ones running real crawlers and even Gulp Worms (The 6" Night Crawler Version in Natural and Punkinseed) work when the bite is steady. I'm not sure running them without any bait will work. You also have to be very sure your hooking the crawler (or the Gulp) right in the very tip of the nose and out the side with the top hook, so it runs straight on the rig. The second hook should also be taunt and straight, and should hook behind the heart of the crawler. Any part of the crawler hanging off to the side or sagging, deadens the wiggle action.
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Location: WENATCHEE, WASHINGTON | THANK YOU FROM THE WEST |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | BORIGINI - 3/19/2006 8:47 AM
THANK YOU FROM THE WEST
YOUR WELCOME FROM THE EAST. I just hope they have universal appeal. |
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| Oh no.... I just read your last post and found out you use the Larger size... and I just ordered 72 of the smaller size...... Should I re-order the larger ones... I'll be using them for crawler harnesses and also with the Cabelas squids ??
Help !!!
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| I see you have 2 hooks on the squid rigs do you run a crawler on it or just the way you showed them. And if you don't use anything does that back hook just hang back behing the squid. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Purple Skeeter - 3/19/2006 3:13 PM
Oh no.... I just read your last post and found out you use the Larger size... and I just ordered 72 of the smaller size...... Should I re-order the larger ones... I'll be using them for crawler harnesses and also with the Cabelas squids ??
Help !!!
Purple Skeeter
Skeeter.
Oh-Oh is right. IMHO The smaller ones won't do the job the bigger ones will/do. I won't guarantee it, but Dean might exchange the smaller ones for you if you turn the order around at the door when it arrives. Give him a call and tell him what happened. 1-208-388-8539. He's a real nice guy and I know he'll work with you on this.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | marbleye - 3/19/2006 6:22 PM
I see you have 2 hooks on the squid rigs do you run a crawler on it or just the way you showed them. And if you don't use anything does that back hook just hang back behing the squid.
Marble.
What you see is what they get, but always with a crawler of some type. I run two #2 Mustad Beak Hooks and let the tail of the crawler wag in the wash of the rigs. I've had very few if any short hits rigging them in this fasion. Funny part was last summer, I had virtually no trash fish to speak of hit these rigs, mostly walleyes. I don't have theory one about why that was, but I sure won't complain about it either.  
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Location: Timmins, Ontraio, Canada | Nice rigs Capt.Dan it looks like I will have to try this out this summer. How big of squids do you use or what is your favorite size of squid to use.
Thanks
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Matt.G - 3/21/2006 7:11 PM
Nice rigs Capt.Dan it looks like I will have to try this out this summer. How big of squids do you use or what is your favorite size of squid to use.
Thanks
You probably noticed the (Proven) squids I used with the regular rigs were a lot larger than the ones I've used to build these new "Double Flash" rigs with. Thats because I customized and used the very first ones that Dean sent me, that came on his "Chuckle Head" rigs used for salmon. Dean assumed I ran salmon charters out of my big boat when he sent them to me. I still run salmon trips, but out of my jet sled on the rivers. So I was actually going to give them all to my (Big Lake) salmon fishing buddies, but seen some promise in their design for walleyes. So I simply trimmed down the squids skirt/legs, removed the Huge single siwash hook and tied in the double hooked harness. The ones I'm using now are 3 1/2 inches versus those first bigger ones. I hope this isn't a mistake on my part. But I think the slightly smaller versions will act even more intising.
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