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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Subtract the cloudy overcast skies and make it a bit warmer and it looks like photos from the Lake Cumberland PWT!!!! We weaved through propane tanks, refrigerators, huge blowndown trees, gas cans, miscellaneous tanks, etc....you name it, it was there!! All that was missing were some cows and pigs!! |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | If its an 80% payout, then they could have give 80% back of the entry fee and let the fisherman walk. This way expenses are covered for MWC and granted not much profit. But it was an option. And it sounds like there werent any options.
Keep this in mind. If yesterday wasnt cancelled. At what point would it be cancelled. I mean where is the breaking point? If the launch was under water, Lake Depue was plan b.
We took it slow and easy and did find some ugly things in the river. And dennis is right. As a rookie (first MWC), I should have known better. Seeing as I fish the Illinois quite a bit, I leaned on the side "how bad can it be"? Tough to turn your back on the "catch a fish, cash a check" koolaid that was being served.
Its tough any way you look at it. Damned if you do, damned if you dont. There had to be a very compelling case to call to this tournament. Seems like there was an answer for all objections. I would like to know more about the fisherman advisory panel. |
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | Wow. Pretty amazing pictures.
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| Jeez what year did the Tournament launch out of Lake Depue because of HIGH water ?????
Didn't hear no belly akin then....
We are all growin men & women that can make our OWN decision.. If you felt the river was too much for Ya- have the go nats to say no I'm not going out... I personnally know teams that are pived that they could not fish TODAY..
A decision was made to fish buy those in charge and I'm sure they didn't have any intentions on HARMING anyone just the BEST interest for EVERYONE fishing.. Jeez if they would have cancelled how many people would be Bitchin about that???? |
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Location: Shabbona | Sorry this last post was mine ...Just wanted to but a name with the post.. |
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| moo,
Glad you left a name...my opinion is your wrong. Not one person I talked to would have been upset with a total cancellation. While I only talked to 30 or so teams, all 30 said cancelling would have made them happy.
Its not supposed to be an obsticle course or an indurance race of jigging in mud hoping to hit one on the head. High water like that takes out all preparation work done during the week. It removes the skill and talent needed to out fish 191 teams.
I still congratulate the winners and the other three guys that caught a fish, it is disapointing to say the least.
TRUTH = It was not a safe launch.
FACT = there appears to have been no injuries.
FALSE = The MWC had no other choice.
They got the tournament off...but with only 4 teams carrying points to the championship...plan on the last tournament of the central (Mississippi River) to have 30 boats. Thats what they wanted thats what they will get. I live 3 hours from that site, and noway my money will go to the purse. |
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| Here's the compete album
http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/leaderboard/llb.asp?t=664&view=ima... |
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| I can't believe what I'm hearing. Since when is how much money they stand to lose the deciding factor if you send anglers out? The MWC is suppose to be a professional tournament trail, after looking at the pics and even the post tournament wrap the MWC did, this was not run professionaly. This was about how much money they make! Without anglers they have no sponsors and no tour, and you never put people in harms way over a buck! If your boss(the people who pay you) told you to do something questional, would you? Heck no, you tell them or him thats not right. If you work for someone that send you out of town and you can't do the work because of mother nature, does the company do the work anyways even when they know it's not right? Heck no they understand this is the risks they have in being a business. They cut their losses and move forward, knowing that without you and the otehr workers no work will get done. I read the EGO of anglers, that you know would go out no matter what as long as the event is being held. Just think if you would have somehow ended up in that water Saturday. I know it never is gonna happen to you, thats the famous last words of many a good people!
If there was some sort of board of directors the MWC would be fined for this. Instead they just keep on keepin on. Shame on them for thinking pockets full first over every angler involved, and if you don't think thats what happened you are fooling yourself. I know for a fact if I were in there I would NOT have lauched my boat. I would have gladly said to them, you can have my money. Never should a tour think about what it costs them not to fish, just how much is a life worth? These pics tell the whole story, there is NO WAY they tell anglers to go out in that. Before you even say it about last fall>(It's not like the FLW league where people choose to run in big waves to fish 30+ miles away, they could have stayed in the Bay and at safe harbor). This is about sending ALL anglers out to a mine field and hoping nothing happens. I would be greatly dissapointed in any committe or panel they have, the anglers that are in direct contact with the director should also be questioned.
In the end they were very lucky this time, no one was hurt. I think they just gave themselfs a blackeye as to what they think of the anglers they live off of.
The anglers fishing would have been better off throwing their money in the lotto! |
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| i remember back i think it was 1990,saw alot of refridgeraders floating down the river,even saw a garage floating down.it was crazy,i think there was 7 fish caught.ya know you don't have to go out,you can pack up your stuff and go home.but everybody fished it and someone took home a nice check. congrats to the guys who caught the 2.70lber.wow 60000! |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Spare me the big boy/girl "make your own decisions" chatter. If safety was an issue, then it could have been called. And few people would have had a problem with it. Like I said, there were no options. This thing was going on and that was it. Most of the folks I talked with had no problem with the call. You cancel then what? Does it mean I gotta fish Detroit to get any chance of being in the money?
Again congrats to the winners, smokin job.
Catch a fish, cash a check. |
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Location: Rhinelander | OK, easy now.
I expressed my opinion, and it's fine to express yours, but no personal bashing or attacks. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | chattin it up now on the wf chat room. Nice. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | well said.
Iheard the $500 late fee was waived. What guy in his right mind would sign up late? |
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| i wouldnt be so sure about someone filling that spot, ive talked to alot of guys that arent coming back next year. The only way is if they go back to winnebago.
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Yep, winnebago on my list.
At least I gotta shot for team of the year? Tied for 5th whoooooo-hoooooo |
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| If they get winnebago back in, youd have to early bird to make sure you got in, cause that tournament will fill fast.If they dont do that, i bet spring valley will be lucky to get 150 boats next year. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Dont 1 through 10 get a placque? I thought it was for first through 10th plus all the in the money plaques.
Now thats gonna be expensive.
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Location: Westland, Mich. | hey, detroit ain't so bad. born and raised there and fished the river yesterday. i caught more fish by myself than any of the teams at spring valley. you come on over. you'll have fun fishing and not have to dodge even 1% of the debris that was in the illinois. |
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| "Jeez if they would have cancelled how many people would be Bitchin about that????"
I know 8 that are glad they didn't cancel.
WTG Schmitty and Mark!
Anyone know if 1 fish has eaver won so much money before?
I bet no matter what, this tourney fills again next year. Tradition is a powerful thing, and this is the first major of the year. |
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| didnt even fill this year Shep.
And next year will have lower turnouts. |
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| As a future competitor I find the fact that this tournament was conducted at all to be idiotic. Is a fishing competition a test of skill or luck? A tournament should not be held anywhere or in any conditions that leads to so few fish to be brought in?
This tournament being held means the MWC is about the money!
The fact that some anglers fell for the "catch a fish, cash a check!" philosophy tells me that it is all about the money for the fishermen too!
I find that sad since there is so little money to be made anyway (at least over the course of seasons and regular payouts) and I had hoped must fishermen simply enjoyed testing themselves and testing their skills amongst others! |
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| OK, what is considered full? 196 entered this tourney. That's alot of teams. Is there a limit. Payout based on a field of.....? |
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| 220 is a full field |
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Location: Spring Valley,Il. | Thats right 220 is full. This is the first year it didnt fill in 21 years.This isnt a tournament it is a dog and pony show.Probably wont ever fill again.Used to be a good tournament,not any more.Alot of guys upset enough to not come back. |
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| Many teams looking to move to different circuits per my conversations. Not quit fishing, but more efficiently run circuits. Even noticed at the Boat club Thursday's chicken fry was a real low turn out. Somethings not right!!! IWT would have never fished in those conditions. (That's a fact)!!! |
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