|
|
| Does anyone know what dealers have one in stock or are they still in production at Tuffy? If still in production when would we see them on the dealers showfloor?
Also what kind of performance (speed wise) could one see out of it with a 150 on back? Reason I ask is because I'm currently running an '07 1890 with a 200 Opti and to be quite frank I took a hit in the pocket last year for fueling. It doesn't sound too good this coming season either with talk of $4 a gallon. Ouch! So as much as I love my 1890 the wife and I think we may have to downsize the motor a bit. I read on a thread that the 190 was in the high 50's with the 175 so I was thinking if a 150 on back could pull at least 50...boy that would be the ticket.
Jeff |
|
| |
|
Member
Posts: 1040
Location: Stevens Point, WI | Mr. Marine in Fond Du Lac, WI has one at the moment for sure. Will be there for a few weeks yet. It's rigged with a 150 Optimax also. And yes, the boat should easily hit 50+ mph. I had a 1760 Osprey last year and I hit 50. A lighter boat and a faster hull, it will definitely do 50+. Might even get 55 out of her. I know I ran the 190 with a 175 last fall at the get together and that boat should get 60 but the motor was not totally broke in yet.
.
Edited by Merckid 2/17/2008 11:36 PM
|
|
| |
|
| X190 should be plenty quick getting up and going with the 150hp since it's a light hull (100lbs less than a 1760, 300lbs less than your 1890); it's also obviously a fast hull, but at a certain point the motor can only turn the prop so fast based on how big it is, so down-sizing the motor may limit your top-end that way. playing around to find the right prop size/pitch with the 150hp will probably go a long way to helping this out.
has anyone run it in the water with a 150hp on back yet? i'd be curious to hear what the actual speeds are with that motor and what prop(s) perform best.
if you're thinking of switching hulls, downsizing the motor below max rating might result in your running the motor at higher rpms, which would eat into your anticipated gas savings.
don't overlook maxxing it out with a 200hp Opti ProXS (best gas mileage) and adding the SmartCraft gauges so you can easily find the sweet spot for running most efficiently.
i'm in the same boat as you, literally and figurtively, running an 1890/200hp. it's hard for a lead-foot like myself to do, but i found that running between 3200-3500rpms does wonders to your gas consumption and cruising at 30mph gets you there only a couple minutes later than going 55mph.
|
|
| |
|
Member
Posts: 1040
Location: Stevens Point, WI | Yes, your optimal fuel economy is from 3500-4500 rpms. That puts an 1890 with a 200 Opti anywhere from 30-40 mph pending how you have it trimmed out also. As far as I know, the X190 at Mr. Marine that has the 150 Opti has not yet been run, will be once I pick it up in mid March. I believe they've only run a Optimax 175 ProXS on it(no 200 ProXS Optimax available), i.e. last fall at the Tuffy get together. |
|
| |
|
Member
Posts: 64
| "don't overlook maxxing it out with a 200hp Opti ProXS (best gas mileage)..."
Lambeau, where are you getting your numbers from as far as fuel consumption? |
|
| |
|
Member
Posts: 2445
Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Quite frankly, you will not find better gas mileage with a 150 on that X190. If so, it will be so minimal you will not really notice. Check the stat sheets from Mercury befotre making the change just because of mileage, NOW, if its because you just want a X190, well, thats another thing. |
|
| |
|
| Fisherman Zach: independent testing (i think it was Bass/Walleye Boat magazine or something like that?) showed that the Optimax is more fuel efficient than even the 4-stroke motors currently available. it's hands down a dang good motor.
175/200...whatever...as Denny underlines, downsizing the motor does not automatically save gas, because a less powerful motor has to work harder to do the same thing, and there's a point of diminishing returns. running a more powerful motor at lower rpms might just be more efficient than running a smaller motor at higher rpms to achieve the same mid-range speeds.
i know with my 1890, 3400 rpms ran me right around 30mph, and my wallet thanked me for it - dramatically more efficient than flying around at 55mph. i could go 55mph when i wanted/needed to do so (even 60mph with my Tempest prop), but when making long runs i simply slowed down a bit and saved the gas.
my guess would be that the X190 with a 200hp (or 175 XS) would run slightly faster at the same rpms since it's a lighter hull and more aggressive hull, and would probably do even better fuel-wise. i'll take my 1890 in the waves, but that X190 is a big fast ride, no doubt about it. it's good Tuffy gives us choices.
it'll be interesting to see how many rpms the 150hp needs to run to keep the X190 on plane, and what the low-end plane speeds are for that boat/motor combo. until there's some out there running around, it's hard to predict.
probably the biggest thing that any of us can do to save gas/oil costs is to slow down. there's a "sweet spot" for max efficiency that's different for every boat/motor combo: fast enough to be planed out and running efficiently, but slow enough that your not guzzling fuel down the pipes. i'm planning to add the SmartCraft gauges to mine so that i can get more precise in where that point is for my boat.
Edited by lambeau 2/18/2008 10:48 AM
|
|
| |
|
Member
Posts: 68
| We have one in stock right now to view at Holmen Marine LTD. Call Dale at 608-526-3345 or email me at [email protected] and we can set up a time for you to visit us. We're just north of LaCrosse on Hwy 35. Check out the other thread posted by Rick Bryson - it is his boat unfortuately- you can look at it, but unfortuately he'd kill me if I sold it to you!
Dale Radcliffe |
|
| |
|
| 150 may not get much better mileage than a 200 (maybe not better at all), but if low 50's is fast enough for you the cost difference between the two motors could pay for an awful lot of gas. You might have a harder time selling the boat with the smaller motor, but if you plan to keep it for a long time resale might not be an issue for you. Personally, I would want to max it out... but I like to go fast from time to time and resale does matter to me. In the end there are a number of personal factors you should take into account when choosing a boat/motor package. |
|
| |
