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| I'm thinking of buying an X 190 this winter and have a few questions. How does this boat handle rough water? How well does the livewell work for keeping big walleyes alive and healthy. I'd be maxing out the horsepower and am wondering if anyones got a verado hanging on the back or would it be to heavy. And does the boat come with a stereo?
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| Northern eyes - 8/25/2008 1:51 AM
I'm thinking of buying an X 190 this winter and have a few questions. How does this boat handle rough water? How well does the livewell work for keeping big walleyes alive and healthy. I'd be maxing out the horsepower and am wondering if anyones got a verado hanging on the back or would it be to heavy. And does the boat come with a stereo?
thanx.
It should handle rough water maybe even a bit better than my 1890, it is a bit longer, but less freeboard, my 1890 will put a smile on your face in the rough water, the TUFFY hull is really a soft ride.
Rear livewll should do fine it is HUGE.
Big Verado L6 I would think would be a bit big, L4 200 would be nice.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Northern eyes - 8/25/2008 1:51 AM
I'm thinking of buying an X 190 this winter and have a few questions. How does this boat handle rough water? How well does the livewell work for keeping big walleyes alive and healthy. I'd be maxing out the horsepower and am wondering if anyones got a verado hanging on the back or would it be to heavy. And does the boat come with a stereo?
thanx.
The boat in my opinion handles big water very well. I've had it on Vermillion and Wabigoon for a week each and several other smaller Wisconsin lakes and it's handled anything those lakes could throw at perfectly. However, if you fish the Great Lakes on a regular basis, this boat may not be as good as say a Tuffy 2060. But I think any other bigger water such as Mille Lacs, Winnebago, Vermillion or any other larger inland water you will without a doubt have no problem from my experience with my 190.
As for the live well, I haven't had any really big walleyes in the well this year but quite a few smaller fish and some good size pike and they stayed nice and healthy without any problems.
As for a Verado, I think Moreyes is right, the new L4 would be ideal. That motor weighs 510lbs, over a 100lbs. less than the L6 that weighs 635lbs. Although, I think a 175 on that rig is ideal. I'm touching mid to low 50's with a 150 Opti, a kicker and a full load. I know another guy with a 175 Optimax Pro XS and he's touching low 60's, 63 to be exact with a 175. The Verado should be fine though.
As for a radio, they do not come stock, but you can have one put in when they rig the boat for a little extra $. |
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| I've had mine out in the UP in some waves that were probably around 4'. When you were sitting down in the driver's seat the tops of the waves were at the level with the top of my head or a little more at the highest. The boat was OK but you sure weren't going to go anywhere fast into them. I had to drop down off plane and get the nose up to soften the ride heading into the waves. Maybe someone else that gets free boats and motors would have gone balls to the wall into that stuff and gotten away with it but not me. Too old and too chicken to do that.
Had it out on Winnebago in 3 footers and took water over the nose trolling straight into the waves if I cranked the speed too high, like 2.3mph, but it was OK at 1.6mph. But for that matter I've never been on Winnebago in any boat and not taken water over the front trolling when the wind is up, even my old 18.5' deep V aluminum. Just the nature of the beast. It wasn't like you were going to worry about it, the water just splashed over the front off and on when the nose didn't get back up in time. I trolled on Portage in the UP in bigger waves and it was dry as could be expected. Just the frequency of the waves that gives you trouble.
Can't say what 5-6'ers are like in this boat but I'd rather not find out. I've had the privilege of doing 7'ers on Lake Mich. in my old Ranger 1600V once and that was more than enough to last a lifetime.
I'll say one thing for the X-190, it does a great job trolling walleyes in more reasonable wave heights, like 3 footers, and runs fairly dry in them too when you get going parallel to the wave fronts. Haven't had a chance to use it trolling fast for muskies on bigger water yet but I am not worried about it from what I've seen.
If you expect to be out in big nasty stuff a lot, I think there are better boats out there, ones that are longer and much deeper, but if you only run into it once in a while you'll be OK. |
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| to my way of thinking, there is a distinction between "big" water and "rough" water. certain smaller lakes can be just as rough or rougher than certain big lakes, depending on the conditions. any boat can handle big water under normal conditions such as a typical summer day on Vermilion or the Bay. not any boat does well when it's rough, and it sounds like this is what you're asking about.
i've owned both an 1890 and a X190, and put them both through their paces on various waters including Vermilion, Leech, Petenwell, and Green Bay in some relatively serious weather. both boats handle _rough_ water quite well, but in different ways. i've run them both in waves up to 3 1/2 foot; i think much beyond that is pretty consistently exaggerated. there's also a huge difference between a sharp wave like you find on Leech, and a roller like i've often seen out on the Bay. if it's getting in the 4' range, i'm heading in regardless of what boat i'm running.
the X190 runs rough waves very comfortably; it has a long and lean shape (19'4"/90") with good lines that cut waves smoothly and allows you to run fast even when it's rough. the 1890 is a goodly bit drier than the X190, but the X190 feels very sure underneath you and i really like that. my wife and i got caught on Green Bay when a storm was blowing in early this summer and being able to outrun it at 60mph skipping across the waves getting back to the launch really saved us from a bad experience; it was a hairy ride and i'd have preferred to slow down, but it was necessary and i was thankful to be in a boat that i could do it. i've been very happy with how easy it is to confidently maintain steering control in rougher conditions as well.
the 1890 offers a very solid feeling ride (18'11"/97"), and the additional freeboard (5" (?) more than the X190) also means that it is an extremely dry ride when the waves and wind are really up. for fishing you're up off the water a bit higher, but a deeper cockpit and higher sides around the front deck pays dividends for you in blocking the spray.
the key as someone else mentioned already is running the boat to match the conditions. i like to go fast when it's calmer, but i'm semi-chicken when it comes to running wildly when the waves are up, or maybe just smart enough to not beat my equipment to death... it's amazing what slowing down a bit and trimming the nose up will do to help with things.
these are good big-water boats, that are plenty capable when things get rough. if i was going to be spending a majority of my time out in the middle of the Bay i'd probably go back to the 1890 for the additional depth and dryness; if you fish under mostly reasonable conditions like me, but want to be sure you're in a ride that will get you home when things turn sour, the X190 is tremendous.
Edited by lambeau 8/25/2008 4:18 PM
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| Thanx Guys. Sounds like a fun boat. I am a little cocerned about the room in the back of the boat as its only got the 90 inch beam. Any comments? |
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| Are four guys going to stand shoulder to shoulder in the back of the boat watching planer boards? No, but there is plenty of room for 2 or 3 guys to move around back there, more than most other boats. Remember, there is 90" side to side back there, with no side tanks or side storage in the way, that really open it up. You're right it is alot of fun to fish out of, esp coming out of a big deep walleye boat. |
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| With the deck out on the Esox package there is adequate room for three guys to run four planer boards from the back. I put 60" rails on the back and have two holders on each rail. I can still swivel the side seats so the other guys can look back at the boards as I run the tiller kicker from the back. I put two holders on each side on the forward short rails too. That way if it gets rough, you can use the holders closest to the back so you don't have to get that far up front and get the full wave bounce throwing you around and can still place rods for drifting. You could run three holders off the rear rails but then you are handcuffed by the rod handles ramming into the chair area stopping the side seats from swiveling around. The reason I got this boat was for musky fishing because of the huge front deck and great rod storage. It is outstanding for that. You just can't have it both ways, with a dance hall in back and a huge front deck. It's always a compromise somewhere. Too bad they don't make a boat with moveable consoles so you could slide them forward for trolling situations and backwards for casting situations. Now if someone could do that....... |
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| Thanx Guys. Sounds like a fun boat. I am a little concerned about the room in the back of the boat as its only got the 90 inch beam. Any comments?
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| Thanx for the pics Lambeau. Any body have any pics without the rear deck extension? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | I'll post some tonight or tomorrow, mine doesn't have a rear deck. |
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| Thanx TJ, that be awsome. Anybody know if theres gonna be a 200 pro xs anytime soon? |
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