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Location: Orland Park, IL | I think me and the iceman are the only two monkeys out here in new york. And one of us has a tuffy.... 
Fished of barcelona (just west of dunkirk) in 62 to 68 FOW using some info I got from the latest edition of the FLW Outdoors magazine (the one with dan stier on the cover). Ran 50 feet of line to a blue glass renowsky, added a bit of crawler to the back treble, and clipped on a 4 oz snap weight. (Note I did review the August 2007 edition with info on jets and divers... but it just didnt sink in. Snap weights seemed better..) 25 to 35 feet to the board and VIOLA (or is it WALLA!) walleye. I think I am running 18 to 24 feet down.
Did the same thing later in the morning, but switched to meat on a watermelon harness. Jets and those mini dipsey are all the rage here, as well as firetiger stickbaits as well as sticks of any type. Renowsky was by far the favorite.
We ran 2 to 3.5 MPH. It was a bit choppy with 1 to 2, but not bad. Bobs starcraft handled nicely. Here is a pic. Dont worry its a dink. Seen a bunch of 10,11 and 12 lbers. YIKES those are some big fish.
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| nice report and fish. strange calm water... I've driven out there 5 times only to be unable to fish because of waves. that would be 5 wasted 500 mile round trips. not many walleyes behing the breakwall at the smallboat harbor. waves over the wall got in my beer!!
hoping to save up some vacation time this fall for a St lawerence walleye trip rumors of a serious walleye comeback up there. I'll be in touch if your interested.
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Location: Orland Park, IL | That would be interesting. Keep some time open for bay of Quinte adventure this november. |
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Location: Lake Erie | Mark, in Cleveland we run 8-10 ft flour leaders behind big dipsey's and run shallow bombers, ripsticks, renosky's all the time, they pull fish very well, on your boards you can run long leads with deep divers with 2oz of weigh, I like to run 30 back clip on 2 oz then let out another 120 ft, both of reef runners and deep husky's. Try a rainbow prism reef runner, purple sunfire and glass clown husky, these are my favorites in clear water ohh and any rainbow or watermelon bait. They are eating smelt out there. If you want to run spinners, run double hatchets in front of 3 oz inlines or behind dipesys.
I'm plannning a salmon trip!!! I'll be calling you!!! |
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| Great info K. Smelt? Good observation. Bay of quinte is a place I've always wanted to try. november all work for me... very bad month...
your not that far from Oswego river, big fall walleye deal there...
Working on something, club/trail wise for NY next year... I'll keep you in the loop... maybe we'll form a "team" 200 miles apart! |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | I got a picture of that big truck in my office. Yep, right around the corner. The baitfish patterns have been a big transition for me. I find the midwest to be shad oriented, with lake erie and niagara river being river shiner or smelt. I am not even sure if alewifes still exist in the lake. |
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| Mark do you have your dates for Quinte yet? I’m there the second week this year our normal trip is the week of Thanksgiving.Paul |
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Location: Lake Erie | In quite they are eating smelt and alewives so bigger rounder cranks work good up there in the fall but your standard stick baits still take plenty of fish from what I understand. I've never fished Quinte but I will one day, it's tough leaving Erie though our bite in the fall is just awesome.
Smelt, Emerald Shiners and Shad are the number one food that Erie walleye eat, in the deeper colder water there main diet is smelt without a doubt. For whatever reason Erie eyes don't like shad baits in comparison to stickbaits. I've ran side by side deep huskys/rouges/reef runners with shad raps, rip shad and the stickbaits will out fish the shad bodies 8-1 weird. I know they eat shad I see them in there bellys and in my livewell I can't explain it I just know what baits they want. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | kevin, yes, spot on in your thinking. This was the first time I fished in 65 FOW 18 to 25 feet down. So used to fishing the 20 to 25 total depth on Bago and Green Bay.
Looks like I found a use for those Risto raps fennessy gave me last year. Quinte. Haven't firmed up the dates yet. Trying to coordinate a couple of items. Is Gustar still doing his thing up there? I am lucky in one aspect, belleville only 4 hours away. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Bob and couple of bruts.
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| drop me a line with dates... I might be able to pull something off... I'm always good for beer and rib(chicken).
K and mark, so the perch don't come into play? |
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Location: Lake Erie | Absolutely forgot about them, most of the time when fishing colorado's I'm pulling chartruse beads with orange and blacks pepered into the mix with gold and chartruse back blades. Walleye expecially big walleye love perch....how could I forget. DOH! My mind when writing the first couple posts were more on bait fish themselves not food in general or forgage whatever. Walleye eat white bass in the spring as well white based cranks always work well in the spring and I've found large half digested white bass in the belly's of 8-12 pound walleye as well. Not nearly as much as other baitfish or perch but I have. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Oh I seen that....lake rathbun, iowa.
"I like to run 30 back clip on 2 oz then let out another 120 ft, both of reef runners and deep husky's."
Kevin, what kinda depth are you getting with that?. At 100 on mono, the rr would be 22 and probably 24-25 at 120. Are you fishing that deep? With the snap weight you gotta be a a few more feed down. I figured the bites would be high.
No mention of lead. A few guys were running harnesses on 5 to 6 colors and having good results. 4 sets of rods would be a really tight pattern. And figure with a decent chop (2+), there's isnt much stretch, less than mono, but I dont this less than mono and my snapweight.
BTW, nice insight Kevin. |
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Location: Lake Erie | Couple pigs that fell to double willows out in 60 ft yesterday off inline weights and dipsey's 5 fish went over 40 pounds probably closer to 41-42 nice fish.
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| Great bite for "eaters" right now drifting Ft.Erie side of the Niagara river from the water intakes down to the peace bridge. Lots of 18-22" walleyes, plus some nice smallmouth drifting spinners with longer flourocarbon leaders 4-5' and two ounce weights most days. Indiana blades in copper or gold with either pink or chartruese beads on sunny days, orange and green blades on cloudy days. Easy to get to and can fish in almost any winds. |
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| K and Komo, gonna add these pics from champlain a few weeks ago... bass the banshhee caught... shallow weeds... lake is loaded with bluegill and perch to feed on along with some shiners... in the pic you'll notice a tail sticking out of the stomach... a very large smelt or lake herring or something... with all the other fish to eat, that bass found one of these things... now I try and add the pics...
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Location: Lake Erie | Bass?!?! I thought we were talking about walleye! LOL That green carp is a porker nice fish. Looks to be a decent size fish whatever it ate. defintely not a smelt tail is much to large. |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Very nice feesh. Probably a crappie. Now thats one fine fishing partner. Congrats!! |
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| she can catch walleye too...
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