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walleye express
Posted 2/17/2014 1:03 PM (#111323)
Subject: LAKE ERIE ON FIRE.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.		No not literally like back in the 70's. I mean like 16 walleyes over 10 pounds and one 14 pounder.




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STINGER(WI)
Posted 2/17/2014 10:14 PM (#111325 - in reply to #111323)
Subject: RE: LAKE ERIE ON FIRE.



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Location: Colgate, WI		Nice fish! Not trying to be negative at all Dan but don't they practice c&r over there. Again, I'm just wondering. Those are some monsters!
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ranger592
Posted 2/18/2014 3:42 AM (#111326 - in reply to #111323)
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Lake Erie is pretty much a catch and kill fishery. At least from what I have seen when I was there.
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jerry
Posted 2/18/2014 7:12 AM (#111327 - in reply to #111323)
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Location: Manitowoc, WI		My son and I hit it pretty good last week out of Meinke Marina. We had some eaters with a few over 10 also. All our fish over 21" are still swimming. I personally don't care what others do with their fish, as they pay for a license and can do as they please, but it will be a cold day in WI when I put the steel to a prespawn female over 4 lbs.

With over 20" of ice out there this bite will go for another 2-3 weeks. I'm thinking about going again if anyone is interested!!
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STINGER(WI)
Posted 2/18/2014 9:45 AM (#111330 - in reply to #111327)
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Location: Colgate, WI		Sounds like you had a great time Jerry! I agree with you can do what you want as long as you buy your license. I was just curious because I release everything on the bay over 22" when guiding and just wanted to know if that was the trend on Erie.
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walleye express
Posted 2/18/2014 10:12 AM (#111331 - in reply to #111325)
Subject: RE: LAKE ERIE ON FIRE.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
STINGER(WI) - 2/17/2014 11:14 PM

Nice fish! Not trying to be negative at all Dan but don't they practice c&r over there. Again, I'm just wondering. Those are some monsters! :)



I'm with you Stinger. I can/will only say that if these were my fish, the pictures of the monsters would be of me holding them right before I released them. These were my buddies fish and like politics and/or religion, he practices and lives with his views and I practice and live with mine.

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Rod Holder
Posted 2/21/2014 3:16 PM (#111339 - in reply to #111323)
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Removing a 10# walleye or in this case a number of them really does not hurt the Lake Erie fishery. There is a big difference between fecundity and fertility and you can find articles all about these two aspects if you do an internet search. The big girls do produce more eggs but the fertility is not there as in females 20-24" long. I took considerable grief over keeping a limit of larger walleyes and posting pictures at a web site other than this one. I don't post pictures anymore because of misguided purists who think they have a better idea. I was supported and corroborated by other Lake Erie fishermen from Ohio. I can attest that these larger walleyes eat just as well as smaller ones. The trick is in the cleaning. After zipping, I cut the pieces into shorter pieces and also any piece, like above the rib cage, where the thickness is 1" or more, I slice these pieces in half to make them thinner. The finished, fried product tastes the same as those treasured "eaters" of 15-18" long.
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walleye express
Posted 2/22/2014 1:16 PM (#111340 - in reply to #111339)
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.		Rod Holder.

I agree and concur with all the data and everything you've said about it. We could fish together with no trouble rather easily. I would never insult you or your right to keep, kill, clean and/or eat any legally caught fish. Nor use the excuses of bad taste or failures of any future reproduction factors to support an argument concerning this topic. The science simply does not support any of those arguments. For me it is a totally personal, self imposed choice of restraint I've practiced (given the fishes release health) for many years, that possibly allows these bigger trophy fish to be caught again by other anglers. Hell, who knows, one of your 10 pounders may have appeared in one of my Photo Gallery pictures before.

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Shep
Posted 2/24/2014 2:11 PM (#111347 - in reply to #111340)
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anything over 4 lbs = Yuck.

And even those from 2-4 aren't that great/. Certainly not tasty like the 15-18's you get on the Bago chain. But it's near impossible to catch an 15-20" eye on Erie most days.
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Mark Komo
Posted 2/24/2014 2:15 PM (#111349 - in reply to #111323)
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Location: Orland Park, IL		You got that right shep. How you been? We certainly love those 15 to 18's on bago. Tastee indeed.
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walleye express
Posted 2/24/2014 3:58 PM (#111352 - in reply to #111349)
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.		Hard to beat a succulent 15 incher's taste. And yes, I will defend the science pointing towards fewer and fewer young walleyes coming up in the Lake Erie system. Hard times may be on the horizon. The overall catch and year class sizes themselves point to that fact. Here's some caught yesterday on Erie. None were culled or thrown back in this catch either. How many small ones do you see? We're planning a trip over this coming weekend. Going with my son in his Argo. He will most likely be keeping everything he catches. I will probably release anything over 20". I'll report back the data, effort and time involved concerning both limits if we hit them good.



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edgewalter
Posted 2/25/2014 7:13 AM (#111353 - in reply to #111323)
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Sounds like you had a great time Jerry! I agree with you can do what you want as long as you buy your license. I was just curious because I release everything on the bay over 22" when guiding and just wanted to know if that was the trend on Erie.

So Stinger, If your client wanted to keep a mounter you would tell him no?
I would rethink that especially when a client is paying you
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Shep
Posted 2/25/2014 8:35 AM (#111354 - in reply to #111353)
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There is no way a 10# eye from Erie tastes anywhere near as good as a 15" from the Bago Chain. Heck, if you could catch a 15" from Erie, it still wouldn't compare.

As for C&R on Erie? We tried that one day in 2003. We came in with one under 22". Eveyone else was keeping the 23-26" fish. So that's what we did the other 3 days of prefish.

Edited by Shep 2/25/2014 8:37 AM
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walleye express
Posted 2/25/2014 9:41 AM (#111358 - in reply to #111354)
Subject: RE: LAKE ERIE ON FIRE.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
Shep - 2/25/2014 9:35 AM

There is no way a 10# eye from Erie tastes anywhere near as good as a 15" from the Bago Chain. Heck, if you could catch a 15" from Erie, it still wouldn't compare.


I agree with that as well Shep. You are truly "What you Eat". And subsequently what you breathe, along with where and how you live. This good/bad taste separation usually applies more so with fish species that store their fat between their muscle layers, like salmon and trout species, versus the fish species that store fat in their stomachs. Walleyes store most of their fat in their stomachs, but their flesh and mud lines also store and/or absorb more of those bad tasteing things simply not found in better/cleaner fresh water lakes, especially over time. It's a no-brainer. Better, cleaner Lake/better Taste.

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