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Location: Kiel, WI | What would hurt If the state makes everyone who wants to guide get a captains license? Then those who are not serious about guiding would get out and those who are would get a captains license. This would assure the public that the guides that their going with know the rules of the road and are held to a better standard. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Dean,
You know what? ..............
As I have indicated before, this ruling is directly effecting me and my income. But if this was the way EVERYONE who guides across all of Wisconsin was treated, I would be in favor of it. Just with one favor or stipulation from the powers to be, please give us a grace period to get it done so that we do not loose more income.
I do not want to sound hypocritical but I always thought that the guide license was a joke. Pay your $40 and call yourself a guide. I think that making everyone show proof that they have a basic understanding of boating and that they can handle some health emergencies, rough seas, and can get all passengers back safely is a great idea. I just do not like the guides on Bago being singled out because some bureaucrat declares it so.
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| HEAR, HEAR Dennis! Catch a pig this weekend would 'ya!
Good Luck
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Location: Kiel, WI | What would be an appropriate amount of time for this? I knoow that it is taking 3-6 months after the test is taken to get approved by the coast gaurd. So would a year be enough time, more than that would seem that people would take advantage of the loop hole. I also feel that if you are to guide that your vessel should be documented I know this is a hassel but provides a consistent standard for vessels for hire. After all if your guideing your a proffessional and there needs to be some standards to protect the public. Just my opinion and I am not a captain just an observer. |
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| Guess, you really hurt me and just for your information I don't drink beer. Nice try.
I don't just hang around the board to rip on people and have been contributing to this board in a positive manner for years. I don't try to make myself larger then life as you said but I HAVE been published over 100 times and have a by-line in Midwest Outdoors, done seminars all over the Midwest, have made over 30 television appearances including Bob Jensen's Fishing the Midwest, Outdoor Wisconsin, John Gillespie's Water's & Woods and others. I am proud of what I've accomplished. I also SIGN MY NAME to every post I make unlike a nameless, spineless paltroon like yourself who I do rip on for taking pot shots at people in such a chicken scratch fashion. Also unlike many who just post knee-jerk reactions to issues I educate myself about the situation before taking a stance and have worked especially hard over the last decade to educate myself about this system. I've fished the Wolf River for over 30 years and guided it for 12. I have also spent many hours taking with Kendall Kampke, Art Techlow and Ron Bruchs at the DNR office in discussion regarding the Wolf River and Winnebago system. I am also a nice guy, teach kids fishing clinics in New London and with Dan Small at boat shows and it's been said I'd "run through a brick wall for a friend". SO, "guess" take your garbage somewhere else.
I apologize for the reply off "thread" subject but as most of you know I don't take undue garbage from nameless people. |
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Location: Kaukauna, Wi. | Doc, i have been reading all these posts here, and have just one thing to say....please do not let certain people get your dander up. I read your site all the time concerning fishing the Wolf River for walleyes, and i, for one, think you do a very good job. One more thing....I Don't want to see the federal government screw up the Wolf like the state DNR has done to some of our trout streams in the western part of the state.
As far as guides being licensed, I really don't have an opinion. I always use a guide when i head up North around Minocqua, and so far, have never had any "bad" experiences. If they give good service, i will recommend them to my fishing buddies, and i alos give them a tip. I appreciate the services they offer.
Keep the lines tight.
Francis G. Planert
A Shiocton "river rat"
[email protected]
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| You guys have some very interesting points. I spend most of my time on Lake Michigan, and have noticed a few things about the captians. Just because they have their liscence doesn't neccesarily make them any safer or more qualified. I believe that most of them are safer, better equipted, and thoroughly qualified to take people fishing in the worst of conditions. I think how they interact with other boats and when they are willing to call a trip in adverse weather makes them what they are.
I personally don't guide, or anything else, but I am for this. First of all ANY compensation, on federal water, is illegal without that liscence. That means an old friend buying me a beer or lunch after fishing is illegal. So that means on my private boat, any friends I take out, I have to pay for their habit, then we share the fish. Let me tell you, the amount I spend per salmon is pretty high. So this law kinda sucks for me as just a fun fisherman. BUT, I go on a charter or two every year, as a learning experience. I feel a lot more comfortable with this captains decisions, knowing that he has gone through quite a bit to be able to do this. This way you are guaranteed, that some tom, dick or harry that isn't qualified isn't putting your life in danger. With your captians liscence, there is also a lot more responsabilities, I guess if you get a dwi, it can be yanked. I see enough idiots, on Winnebago with 200 hp engines flying around, putting peoples lives in danger, breaking laws and flat out not being curtious. Some of these guys call themselves guides some don't. I hope this law would help correct some of this by not allowing some of these morons to call themselves guides out there. They make all the qualified, experienced, safe guides look bad. I know the timing on enforcing this law sucks, but I would think those that are serious, will get their liscence, and be an elite bunch of skilled experts, eliminating some of the crap that goes on. I hope nobody is to ticked about this, it wasn't meant at anyone in particular, and I know that not everyone is the idiots that I have had to deal with.
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Location: Omro,Wi. | Come on guys,you should all know this captain license thing is not about safety.If it was,then how come someone who knows nothig about boating,can take his wife and three year old out fishing??I've been boating for over forty years,on this system,been in all kinds of weathger,and adverse situations. I sure know more than someone 21 years old with a brand new captains license.Must know what the heck I'm doing because,I'm still here.So tell me why I can't guide anymore??? Better yet I'll tell you what it's all about.MONEY!!! plain and simple.The Coast Guard is expanding it's coverage of the system,and needs some way to help pay for the equipment,and personal.There will be more things in the future,I'll beton that.This is just the start of it...hafe |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | Come on guys,you should all know this captain license thing is not about safety.If it was,then how come someone who knows nothig about boating,can take his wife and three year old out fishing??I've been boating for over forty years,on this system,been in all kinds of weathger,and adverse situations. I sure know more than someone 21 years old with a brand new captains license.Must know what the heck I'm doing because,I'm still here.So tell me why I can't guide anymore??? Better yet I'll tell you what it's all about.MONEY!!! plain and simple.The Coast Guard is expanding it's coverage of the system,and needs some way to help pay for the equipment,and personal.There will be more things in the future,I'll beton that.This is just the start of it...hafe |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | Come on guys,you should all know this captain license thing is not about safety.If it was,then how come someone who knows nothig about boating,can take his wife and three year old out fishing??I've been boating for over forty years,on this system,been in all kinds of weathger,and adverse situations. I sure know more than someone 21 years old with a brand new captains license.Must know what the heck I'm doing because,I'm still here.So tell me why I can't guide anymore??? Better yet I'll tell you what it's all about.MONEY!!! plain and simple.The Coast Guard is expanding it's coverage of the system,and needs some way to help pay for the equipment,and personal.There will be more things in the future,I'll beton that.This is just the start of it...hafe |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | hafe.....do you stutter?....... the three post master. hehehehehehe |
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