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| It seems strange, but with this cool summer, I'm already noticing a bit of a change to a fall pattern with the fish already, which seems a bit earlier than normal.(My home waters have dropped 13*F. in the last 2 weeks, and are much cooler than normal for this time of year.) Are any of you seeing the same changes? How much will this change the bite this fall?
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| I ask this question: Are fall patterns triggered by water temp or changing light?
I beleive they are triggered by changing light (just my opinion) with that said, I have noticed that the leaves on some trees are changing colors already which is triggered by changing light.
I think "winter" will get an early/normal start due to the cooler temps.
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| The lakes around Rhinelander in some cases are already turning over, about two to three weeks ahead of schedule. If the temps remain cool, the fall weedline and reef bite will start early here, a good thing! |
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| My uncle is a guide in the Rhinelander area and yes some of the lakes are turning over already. He told me that he has been getting more walleyes on minnows over crawlers. Said he does not remember a year where minnows have outproduce crawlers this early.
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Location: Milw, WI | I know a muskie guide up north....
He turned to suckers a few weeks back already.
I am heading to one of my river spots to see of fall fishing is happening yet.
I love my fall fishing.
There are salmon in the river here right now, a little early. |
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Location: Fergus Falls, MN | Turning over??
I have a hard time believing that. It is my understanding, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the thermocline in a lake is 39 degress. That is the temp of water at its densest state. So, it sinks to the bottom of the lake. In the fall when lake surface temps drop below 39 degrees, that water then sinks and displaces the water at and below the thermocline. Turn over. So, for lakes to be turning over right now you'd have to have water temps in the 30's. I know its been cold, but even in northern Minnesota our lakes are in the upper 50's. |
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| Matt, I think Chris ment that the habits of the fish were turning over to a fall pattern, not that the lake had "turned over", but I can't say for sure. |
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Location: Fergus Falls, MN | Ahhhhhhh |
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Location: upper michigan | something you need to consider is that surface temp is just that its only the top2 to 5 feet of the water after that tempatures can very greatly depending on the year i live near lake michigan and have been closely watching the surface temps and they can up 20 degreas in one day depending on air temp and wind direction this is due to the cool summer and coller water temps especially those a few feet under the surface so could the turnover be happening even with 50 degrea surface temps yes the turn over could happen and only lower thge surface temps a few hours if following the turnover there was a warm day many of the lakes i fish the thermocline was much deaper than normal this year also wich means it will be easier for the water to turn over i hope this has helped |
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