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Horshak
Posted 10/31/2006 9:42 PM (#48612)
Subject: Anybody Else With Same Problem?


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Location: Manitowoc, WI
Just got my boat back yesterday. 2006 225 Optimax was sucking air through 9.9 Pro Kicker. Not sure how the fuel line ties in because I haven't had time to look at it. I suspect it is tied into the main motors fuel line instead of a seperate line to the tank. I was told that I need to add a shut-off valve on the fuel line for the kicker or unplug the kickers fuel line while running the 225. Now, I ask myself, If I was to build and rig this boat, would I spend the extra $25 for the valve and install it? Darn right I would. So, if anybody has had any experience with this, I would appreciate any advice on installing this valve by myself or would that void any warranty? Thanks in advance.
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john mannerino
Posted 11/1/2006 4:52 AM (#48613 - in reply to #48612)
Subject: RE: Anybody Else With Same Problem?


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Not sure how your set up is but I have a valve seperating my fuel lines, it stays open all the time . Might want to take a look at you bulb on your kicker, check valve sounds like it is not holding. There should be no reason to have to disconnect you gas line. A valve would be a good thing to have if your bulb goes out to seperate your lines if it is tied together from one gas line.
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Horshak
Posted 11/1/2006 6:29 AM (#48617 - in reply to #48612)
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John, they put in a new primer bulb of the V6 type. It wasn't staying firm and had a small one on it. Thanks for the reply.
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Shep
Posted 11/1/2006 7:41 AM (#48623 - in reply to #48617)
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Mine have had just a bulb inline with the kicker. Never had any problems.
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Fibtat
Posted 11/1/2006 1:42 PM (#48629 - in reply to #48612)
Subject: RE: Anybody Else With Same Problem?


Horshak,I installed a tee,available from Atwood I believe,in the splashwell of my Osprey.One fuel line in,two out,it switches from one motor to the other with the twist of a knob.Five years and I've had no problems.I by-passed the original line through the splashwell.I'm not afraid to drill holes.You can install it yourself if you have any mechanical inclination.I don't understand why the dealer didn't.
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stacker
Posted 11/2/2006 10:48 AM (#48649 - in reply to #48629)
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The problem has arose in the past that the valve that fibtat speaks of will restrict the flow of fuel. When that happens it leans out the fuel mixture for the engine and will detonate a piston. As with anything mechanical, some will work and some will not. The nice part of using check valves is, it does not retrict fuel flow. It just stops the introduction of air. Meaning, the engine just loses it prime all together. Most times the engine will just quit for lack of prime, I.E. no fuel getting to the intake system. Opti-maxs will go to guardian mode and let you limp in.
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GUEST
Posted 11/2/2006 4:17 PM (#48652 - in reply to #48612)
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I have seen many boats rigged with a Tee cut into the main motor's fuel line. What can happen is this: with your kicker in the up position your main motor can suck air through the kicker's float bowl. The kicker should have it's own supply line from the fuel tank, eliminating check valves and shutoff valves. Lunds have a seperate fitting on the gas tank just for kickers, in fact it is even labled as such. I would surely think most walleye boats have these provisions for adding a kicker.
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Horshak
Posted 11/2/2006 8:34 PM (#48665 - in reply to #48612)
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Thanks for the replies all. I would think that the bulb for the kicker would not let the reverse flow to occur but I guess I am wrong. Stacker could you please send me the part number for the check valve?
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JAKE
Posted 12/23/2006 11:51 AM (#49838 - in reply to #48612)
Subject: RE: Anybody Else With Same Problem?


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bob:
if you haven't made any changes yet try this. install an in line water separating fuel filter, the type with the large spin on cartridge. the bracket has 2 sets of inputs and outputs. you need one input from the tank, plug the other. connect your fuel lines from each of your motors to the individual outputs. no tee's or switches are needed. this is the setup i have run for 3 years with a 150 efi and a 9.9 kicker. no problems.

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.SearchResults?cmid=TOP_SEARC...
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Horshak
Posted 12/23/2006 6:35 PM (#49844 - in reply to #48612)
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Thanks Jake! I might try that. For now I am just running with the kucker unplugged.
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Joel "Doc" Kunz
Posted 12/23/2006 9:24 PM (#49846 - in reply to #49844)
Subject: Re: Anybody Else With Same Problem?



I looked it up in my catalog, looks like an inexpensive fix with the fuel filter. Here's a link tothe part for those wondering.
http://www.bellrpg.net/WOLFRIVER/MA/grouppart.asp?MAJ=014&PRI=068&S...
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guido
Posted 12/29/2006 7:01 AM (#49971 - in reply to #48612)
Subject: RE: Anybody Else With Same Problem?


mannerino is the only one i ever saw with an automatic fire extinguisher on his motor! heheheh
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